{"id":31100,"date":"2018-05-08T22:32:19","date_gmt":"2018-05-08T22:32:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/airforcetimes\/uncategorized\/2018\/05\/08\/mattis-infantry-reformer-blasts-weapons-makers-to-quit-stalling-and-make-a-better-more-lethal-rifle\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T02:44:24","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T02:44:24","slug":"mattis-infantry-reformer-blasts-weapons-makers-to-quit-stalling-and-make-a-better-more-lethal-rifle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/airforcetimes\/news\/your-air-force\/2018\/05\/08\/mattis-infantry-reformer-blasts-weapons-makers-to-quit-stalling-and-make-a-better-more-lethal-rifle\/","title":{"rendered":"Mattis\u2019 infantry reformer blasts weapons makers to quit stalling and make a better, more lethal rifle"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">INDIANAPOLIS \u2015 The lead man tasked by Defense Secretary Jim Mattis with transforming everything <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armytimes.com\/news\/your-army\/2018\/04\/11\/this-mattis-directed-task-force-wants-to-overhaul-the-infantry-heres-how-it-might-do-that\/\" title=\"\" class=\"\" target=\"_blank\">infantry and close combat<\/a> on Tuesday challenged industry and government leaders to put a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armytimes.com\/news\/your-army\/2017\/10\/08\/the-armys-next-generation-squad-weapon-could-change-the-way-you-fight\/\" title=\"\" class=\"\" target=\"_blank\">leap-ahead rifle<\/a> in his boss\u2019 hands in less than two years \u2014 or else.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Retired Army <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armytimes.com\/news\/your-army\/2017\/05\/20\/lawmakers-press-for-better-rifles-bigger-bullets-for-soldiers-marines\/\" title=\"\" class=\"\" target=\"_blank\">Maj. Gen. Bob Scales<\/a> was a keynote speaker at the annual National Defense Industry Association Armament Systems forum here, and he didn\u2019t waste any time launching into a takedown of key components that equip the close combat infantryman.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Scales recounted how he\u2019d spoken at the conference three years ago, pushing industry and government procurement officials to create an intermediate caliber rifle with a piston action, polymer ammunition casing, a suppressor and digital fire controls.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cNow, in 2018, does any of that sound familiar?\u201d he asked.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Scales is the chairman of the Department of Defense\u2019s recently created \u201cClose Combat Lethality Task Force.\u201d The task force formed at Mattis\u2019 direction and has $2.5 billion to fundamentally transform all things close combat for Army and Marine infantry and Special Operations troops.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The rifle he described in his opening remarks is handled under the Next Generation Squad Weapon project, headed by the Army.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But there, too, are problems, he noted.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The NGSW program was aimed at making a rifle or carbine to replace the flawed M16\/M4 system, which Scales has railed against since his own experience with early versions of the M16 in Vietnam.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But an incredulous Scales told the audience that developers on the NGSW are now prioritizing the light machine gun in a program called the Next Generation Squad Automatic Rifle to replace the Squad Automatic Weapon, with the rifle or carbine to come later.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt\u2019s the Next Generation rifle or carbine, damn it,\u201d Scales said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/ARM-7.62-replacement.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-59519\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/ARM-7.62-replacement.jpg.jpg 640w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/ARM-7.62-replacement.jpg.jpg?resize=300,200 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Soldiers from 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division wait for orders to push forward toward the objective during Exercise Combined Resolve VIII at the Grafenwoehr Training Area, Grafenwoehr, Germany on April 24, 2017. The Army is seeking an interim 7.62 mm rifle to replace some of its M4s. (Spc. Javon Spence\/Army)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The change in focus means that under current schedules, the rifle\/carbine won\u2019t be ready until 2024.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That is not acceptable, Scales said. To either him or his boss.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cLet me tell you something, folks. It\u2019s not working,\u201d Scales said. \u201cMake the rifle by 2020. My God, folks, it\u2019s a nine-pound piece of steel. The cost isn\u2019t as much as a lug nut on a B-1 bomber.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/armytimes\/news\/your-army\/2017\/05\/07\/new-rifle-bigger-bullets-inside-the-army-s-plan-to-ditch-the-m4-and-5-56\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/arm-rifle-1.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">New rifle, bigger bullets: Inside the Army&#8217;s plan to ditch the M4 and 5.56<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">Soldiers could see a new rifle and larger round in a few years.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Officials with the NGSW project expect machine gun prototypes by late 2019 or early 2020. Those changes will include an intermediate caliber. Currently, a government-developed <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armytimes.com\/news\/your-army\/2018\/05\/08\/armys-next-squad-weapon-will-fire-a-never-before-seen-ammo-combination\/\" title=\"\" class=\"\" target=\"_blank\">6.8mm round<\/a> is being tested.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Snipers with Special Operations Command will see a barrel swap on their 7.62 mm rifles as early as next year to a commercially available 6.5 mm caliber.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe SecDef said before he leaves office in 2020, if [President Donald] Trump is not re-elected, he\u2019s going out to a range somewhere to shoot that rifle,\u201d Scales said. \u201cIf you don\u2019t get something in the field by then, you\u2019ve failed.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He pointed to lives lost due to small arms and other infantry equipment holes from Vietnam to Afghanistan to last year\u2019s deaths of special operations soldiers in Niger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIf you\u2019d listened to me three years ago, those soldiers in Niger would have had this rifle in their hands,\u201d Scales said. \u201cSo, take that to bed tonight.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/armytimes\/news\/your-army\/2018\/04\/11\/this-mattis-directed-task-force-wants-to-overhaul-the-infantry-heres-how-it-might-do-that\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/close-combat-training.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">This Mattis-directed task force wants to overhaul the infantry. Here\u2019s how it might do that.<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">The Close Combat Lethality Task Force could radically change the lives of infantry and ground combat troops across the services.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The historic reluctance to leap ahead on the rifle, Scales said, is the \u201cpure fleeting\u201d concept, in which every service member carries the same basic rifle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That has ended, he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cNo more pure fleeting,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The rifle project is supposed to be one of the first level \u201clow-hanging fruits\u201d of the overall task force mission, Scales said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Advances in communications, training and other items will come next.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Body armor will be a major focus. The technology isn\u2019t quite there yet, but what\u2019s needed is a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armytimes.com\/news\/your-army\/2017\/05\/25\/chief-the-army-has-developed-a-bullet-that-penetrates-5-56-mm-resistant-body-armor\/\" title=\"\" class=\"\" target=\"_blank\">lightweight body armor<\/a> that can protect from a 7.62mm round at 400 meters from neck to groin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That, Scales hopes, will come from industrious small business, because like many things infantry, the small piece of equipment is extraordinarily valuable for the less than 4 percent of the fighting forces involved in close combat, but it doesn\u2019t attract the dollars that bomber and ships do.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Retired Army Maj. Gen. 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