{"id":76585,"date":"2025-02-03T23:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-02-03T23:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/airforcetimes\/uncategorized\/2025\/02\/03\/apples-new-vietnam-war-series-captures-shards-of-light-amid-chaos\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T16:13:45","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T16:13:45","slug":"apples-new-vietnam-war-series-captures-shards-of-light-amid-chaos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/airforcetimes\/news\/your-air-force\/2025\/02\/03\/apples-new-vietnam-war-series-captures-shards-of-light-amid-chaos\/","title":{"rendered":"Apple\u2019s new Vietnam War series captures \u2018shards of light\u2019 amid chaos"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The dulcet sounds of Bing Crosby\u2019s \u201cWhite Christmas\u201d could be heard around the city, but it wasn\u2019t to mark the approaching holiday season, it was the American code signaling the start of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/your-military\/2021\/08\/15\/whats-happening-now-is-worse-midway-skipper-who-pushed-choppers-off-deck-in-fall-of-saigon\/\" target=\"_blank\">Operation Frequent Wind<\/a> \u2014 the evacuation of Saigon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Beginning on April 29, 1975, Armed Forces Radio jarringly blasted the Christmas song throughout the bombarded city as increasingly panicked American and South Vietnamese clamored to reach the safety of the U.S. Embassy and its <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/opinion\/commentary\/2021\/05\/05\/book-excerpt-no-wider-war-a-history-of-the-vietnam-war-1945-1975-volume-2\/\" target=\"_blank\">evacuating helicopters<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For two days helicopters landed on the embassy\u2019s roof every 10 minutes, moving more than 7,000 people out of Saigon, with the American UH-1 \u201cHuey\u201d helicopter<a href=\"https:\/\/www.historynet.com\/the-real-story-behind-the-iconic-saigon-evacuation-photograph\/\" target=\"_blank\"> becoming the iconic symbol of the American<\/a> evacuation of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/off-duty\/movies-video-games\/2018\/03\/29\/military-times-10-best-vietnam-war-movies\/\" target=\"_blank\">Vietnam<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now, as the 50th anniversary of the fall of Saigon approaches, Apple TV+ has delivered a six-part series that offers up a personal, unparalleled look into the decades-long conflict.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Narrated by actor Ethan Hawke, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/tv.apple.com\/us\/show\/vietnam-the-war-that-changed-america\/umc.cmc.5louo8zb5eb7zs0dgk06tnk22\" target=\"_blank\">Vietnam: The War That Changed America<\/a>,\u201d pulls over 1,100 hours of archival footage that places the interviewees \u2014 journalists and soldiers alike \u2014 back into some of the war\u2019s most consequential events.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Military Times spoke to Caroline Marsden, one of the producers of the series, who spoke candidly about the difficulties of taking on such an expansive project and the \u201cmoments where people, in the face of the awfulness of war, do these extraordinary things.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/piKtGq5zlrU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen title=\"Vietnam: The War That Changed America \u2014 &quot;Not A Cake Walk&quot; | Apple TV+\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><b>Vietnam represents a fracture in American society and politics, giving way to something new entirely. How much of a challenge was it to piece together such a splintered narrative?<\/b><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It was difficult in the sense that you have 10 years, right? So, at that point, it was America\u2019s longest war, longest running war, and you have, for the first time \u2014 and last time, really \u2014 documentary crews and news crews given unparalleled access to go and film. It meant that for us we had an incredible amount of material to go through. So, in that sense it was difficult, but also what an amazing problem to have.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">All that filming that went on also added to the feeling of, \u2018Well, what do we want to focus on, really?\u2019 But that became much clearer as soon as we started speaking with people. Most people were out there for a year for their tour of duty, so you could kind of, over the 10 years, just track this change in the war and the people who went through it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><b>You pulled over 1,100 hours of archival footage for this project. What was that like in juxtaposition to interviewing the men and women today?<\/b><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That was amazing. How we approached it is that we\u2019d look at footage and see if we could find people in the archive, which is very difficult. But it was also very surreal because you have these scenes with people fighting, they\u2019re shooting over walls, someone shooting at them, and then they have microphones put in their face and they would say their name and that sort of thing. We could track them down sometimes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I remember in Episode Six, we have one of the Marines who was the last one at the embassy during the fall of Saigon, and we had footage, tons of footage, of the embassy. We were just showing him that, and he was like, \u2018Look, there\u2019s me!\u2019 We actually found him a few times, and he was very moved by it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These are major things that happened to them, that they took part in. Seeing this footage was very moving for them. It was nice to be able to show that because you don\u2019t always know how people are going to react. We always said to them, \u2018We\u2019re going to show you something only if you want.\u2019 They always had the option not to look at it, because it can be triggering. But most of them, all of them, wanted to see it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2048\" height=\"1362\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Tet-Offensive-Wounded-scaled-2048x1362.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-106967\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Tet-Offensive-Wounded-scaled-2048x1362.jpg.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Tet-Offensive-Wounded-scaled-2048x1362.jpg.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Tet-Offensive-Wounded-scaled-2048x1362.jpg.jpg?resize=768,511 768w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Tet-Offensive-Wounded-scaled-2048x1362.jpg.jpg?resize=1024,681 1024w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Tet-Offensive-Wounded-scaled-2048x1362.jpg.jpg?resize=1536,1022 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2048px) 100vw, 2048px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Several bloody and bandaged soldiers ride on top of a tank used as a make-shift ambulance after the Battle of Hue in the Vietnam War, February 15, 1968. (John Olson\/Getty Images)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In Episode Four, we interviewed a man called Bill Boyles, and he talked about how he was at university, right? And he\u2019s watching all the footage from Hu\u1ebf, and he sees exactly that \u2014 he says he sees this [American soldier] behind a wall shooting at the enemy and then someone puts a mic in his face, and he says something like \u2018I just want to go home and go to school.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Boyles talks about watching that on his TV, and then deciding in that moment, \u2018Why should I be out of it? Why should I be allowed to be free of this when guys like him have to go and fight?\u2019 So, he decides that he too will go out and he will fight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We were able to find in the archives that exact TV clip. It was exciting to have found exactly what he had watched on TV.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><b>You anchor many of the episodes around iconic moments many Americans will know. Are there specific stories that have stuck with you personally?<\/b><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">People are sort of more familiar with certain battles like Hamburger Hill, for example. But people won\u2019t necessarily know what it meant. Our approach to that was to make it personal. In Episode Four we have a nurse who was at Hamburger Hill.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Her father fought in World War II, and she couldn\u2019t stand the protests happening on college campuses. She really felt that they were looking down on the boys that she grew up with who were being drafted and sent out to Vietnam, and that these college students were sort of shirking their duty. And she\u2019s so angry about it, she signs up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">She talks about going down to the draft board and saying, \u2018I\u2019m a nurse, and I want to go.\u2019 They couldn\u2019t sign her up fast enough. Initially she\u2019s thrilled to be out there but then she gets there and she\u2019s seeing injuries like she\u2019s never seen before. She talks about this slow change in her view of the war and how Hamburger Hill is happening around that time. You have all these hill battles and men are coming in with unbelievable life-changing injuries. They\u2019re sort of patching them up, sending them back out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And then she\u2019s sort of going, \u2018Well, what did you do? We took a hill, right?\u2019 Then a week later, a bunch of guys coming back in saying, \u2018Oh, we\u2019re fighting at this hill.\u2019 And she\u2019s going, \u2018But you already took that hill.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And they\u2019re going, \u2018Well, we lost it.\u2019 And she\u2019s thinking, \u2018What is the point?\u2019 Young men are being injured. They will never be the same. Lots of them are dying. So, we tell the story from that time in the war through her personal perspective.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><b>From the beginning in the documentary you can see the shift between the men who are serving in 1965-66 to the end of the war. It\u2019s a very different perspective.<\/b><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Exactly. In the first episode, we\u2019ve got [Col. (Ret.) Ramon] \u201cTony\u201d Nadal and he\u2019s fighting the North Vietnamese Army in what is almost a traditional battle, right? And then at the same time, we meet the Tunnel Rats, the guys who are discovering that there\u2019s a whole other guerrilla force in the South sympathetic to the communists in the North.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is a whole new, different type of warfare, different battle strategies. You\u2019re hearing a first-person account of someone who\u2019s a bit like, \u2018Holy shit, I have to go in there.\u2019<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><b>There have been connections made between the fall of Saigon and the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. After interviewing and viewing extensive archival film, would you consider that accurate?<\/b><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I have yet to do a documentary about [Afghanistan], so I\u2019ll have to get back to you on that! But on its face, it does seem to have the same sort of similarly wild scenes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the series, journalist Hilary Brown talks about how all the journalists are taking bets on how quickly this [fall] will happen. And, wow, it happened very quickly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are these sorts of wild escapes at the last minute, but also the sort of extraordinary decisions that were made at that time. I think those are one of the things we focus on in the series, these small shards of light \u2014 moments where people, in the face of the awfulness of war, do these extraordinary things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I do think it\u2019s worth clinging on to those moments as examples of what we can do as human beings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i>\u201c<\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/tv.apple.com\/us\/show\/vietnam-the-war-that-changed-america\/umc.cmc.5louo8zb5eb7zs0dgk06tnk22\"><i>Vietnam: The War That Changed America<\/i><\/a><i>\u201d is available to stream on Apple TV+.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cVietnam: The War That Changed America\u201d is available to stream on Apple 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