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Two grassroots efforts to take on the Islamic State group \u2014 both named “Veterans Against ISIS” \u2014 share a common enemy, but they may be battling each other first.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"ID=70168614\"One group, whose mission is to defend the United States from Islamic State attacks, has applied for a trademark and is considering legal action against the second, which is recruiting veterans to fight Islamic State in Iraq.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n

“We’re not saying go or don’t go; we just don’t want you using our name when what you’re doing doesn’t represent what we’re about,” said the first group’s co-founder Bob Maher, an Army veteran.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maher’s Veterans Against ISIS<\/a> group was formed last September to quietly monitor any IS activity within the U.S. and share information between veterans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It currently has almost 1,100 members who actively coordinate information about the Islamic State group via a closed Facebook group.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"ID=70168472\"“We are here in case of a domestic threat; we’re not a recruiting agency sending able bodies to Iraq,” said the group’s other co-founder Andrew Brian, another Army vet.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n

“We’re not looking for trouble, but if ISIS starts something here, we’re pledged to do anything we can to stop it,” Brian said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sean Rowe, however, is itching to immediately take the fight to the Islamic State.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Two weeks ago, inspired by online stories of other veterans fighting IS abroad, Rowe, who also served in the Army, formed a group with the same name<\/a> to recruit fellow veterans to travel to Iraq and directly engage the enemy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“I founded Veterans Against ISIS because I’m really dissatisfied with where things are politically, and these people [fighting IS] need our help,” Rowe told Army Times.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Threat of legal action<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rowe does not see any issue with using the same name as Maher and Brian’s group.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“We’re all Veterans Against ISIS, so it shouldn’t be a problem,” Rowe said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maher and Brian disagree.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Frustrated with the attention Rowe’s recruiting activities have brought them, on Monday they filed a trademark application to protect their name, and intend to sue Rowe should he continue using their name, according to Brian.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\"ID=70168752\"Undeterred, Rowe has set up a <\/span>GoFundMe site<\/a> to raise funds for his undertaking, which to date has received $265 out of a requested $30,000.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n

“We’re not mercenaries and not doing it for money,” Rowe said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maher and Brian, however, have petitioned GoFundMe to remove the site per their filed trademark application of the name.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

GoFundMe is currently investigating the issue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Meanwhile, Rowe intends to continue the charge to Iraq, and <\/span>aims to embed with the Peshmerga, the military forces of semi-autonomous Kurdistan fighting IS in northern Iraq.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Citing operational security concerns, though, Rowe is hesitant to disclose any specifics of his plan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“I’ve got dozens of requests to join up, and we’re going very, very soon,” Rowe said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

According to Rowe, his group now numbers over two dozen, and will stage to Iraq in small teams.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rowe has stopped accepting volunteers, but is still soliciting funding to cover travel expenses, which according to Rowe “is the most expensive part of doing this.”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“Once we’re over there, we won’t have any costs,” Rowe said. “We will fall under the Peshmerga, who will provide basic necessities like body armor, weapons, food and shelter.”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The original Veterans Against ISIS group is non-plussed, however.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For them, the first duty of veterans is to be prepared to defend the United States at home, and doesn’t condone anyone going overseas to fight ISIS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“You want to go over there with no plan, no contacts? I wouldn’t advise anyone to do that; it’s irresponsible,” Maher said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maher, a former MP, said he was wounded while serving with the 101st Airborne Division during the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and medically retired from the Army in 2005.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“Anyone who’s been in combat over there and wants to go back needs to have their head examined,” Maher said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rowe deployed with the Army Reserve to Iraq as a plumber from 2004 to 2005, according to Army personnel information. In 2006, he joined active duty and reclassified as a network switching systems operator, serving until 2010 when he left service as a specialist, according to Army officials.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

According to Rowe, he “voluntarily separated.”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“I was just sick of the lifestyle, I didn’t agree politically with a lot of things, and I do consider myself an activist so this really wasn’t a fit,” Rowe told Army Times.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rowe became outraged by the atrocities committed by the Islamic State group.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Since last August, the U.S. and coalition forces have conducted 2,780 airstrikes against ISIS, according to the Office of the Secretary of Defense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Congress is currently considering the Obama administration’s proposed Authorization for the Use of Military Force which would expand operations to potentially include U.S. “boots on ground” in the near term.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Yet for Rowe, not enough is being done.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“It’s obvious political games are being played,” Rowe said. “What am I really doing right now? What’s going on over there is far more important and serious.”<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Staff writers Oriana Pawlyk and Michelle Tan contributed to this report. <\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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