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From four-star generals to the youngest privates, soldiers across the Army have embraced the service\u2019s decision in June to allow rolled sleeves \u2013 especially during the height of summer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But excitement over the ability to roll the sleeves of the Army Combat Uniform has not been universal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The almost 10,000 National Guard soldiers in Illinois are not allowed to roll their sleeves, according to a memo from Brig. Gen. Michael Zerbonia, the assistant adjutant general and commander of the Illinois Army National Guard.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThis authority is not delegated below my level,\u201d the memo states. \u201cThis decision will be reevaluated in the next 90 days and updated guidance will be published if necessary.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Lt. Col. Brad Leighton, a spokesman for the Illinois Guard, defended the general\u2019s decision.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThis is a decision by our general,\u201d he said. \u201cEssentially, we have a lot of other things we\u2019re doing right now, and to implement guidance from the Army, we want to take a look at it. We\u2019re going to take the 90 days and reevaluate.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

He added that the Illinois Guard is \u201cnot the only command that\u2019s decided not to go with the short sleeves right away.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The decision to allow rolled sleeves \u201ccame out suddenly\u201d from Army leaders, \u201cand if we\u2019re going to implement it, we\u2019re going to implement it in a thoughtful manner,\u201d Leighton said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

He added that \u201cnot every decision a commander makes is going to be a popular one.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Also going sleeves down are the soldiers working at the Army National Guard Readiness Center in Arlington, Virginia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThe uniform policy is currently under revision,\u201d said Lt. Col. Wes Parmer, a spokesman for the Army Guard. \u201cFor now, soldiers have been directed to keep their sleeves down and await further guidance.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In contrast, sleeve-rolling is mandatory for soldiers in the 1st Infantry Division from April 15 through Oct. 15, according to a video of the division\u2019s command team posted on Facebook.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On Fort Hood, Texas, where this all began \u2013 a soldier asked Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley for permission to roll sleeves when the general presided over a reenlistment ceremony there \u2013 soldiers in the 1st Cavalry Division can roll their sleeves at their commander\u2019s discretion, said Maj. John Miller, a spokesman for the division.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The 1st Cavalry Division command team, Maj. Gen. J.T. Thomson and Command Sgt. Maj. Maurice Jackson, only stipulate that a formation has to be the same \u2013 with all sleeves either up or down \u2013 based on that subordinate commander\u2019s decision, Miller said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The same goes for an end date. Division leaders will not stipulate the uniform requirements of a subordinate command as long as formations are in the same uniform, Miller said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, sleeve-rolling is allowed but not mandatory, said Master Sgt. Pat Malone, a spokesman for the division.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cCommanders have the flexibility to establish uniform guidance in accordance with their mission requirements,\u201d Malone said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For example, he said, commanders can call for sleeves down for events such as change of command ceremonies. Sleeves also can only be rolled in garrison; sleeves will be down and cuffed during field training exercises and airborne operations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For paratroopers in the 82nd Airborne, they likely will be allowed to roll their sleeves from April through October, based on \u201cthe temperate climate we are in,\u201d Malone said, adding that that timeframe \u201cis not written in stone\u201d and is, again, up to commanders.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The rules are similar for soldiers in the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Kentucky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cCommanders may authorize rolled sleeves in garrison in the 101st, but it is not mandatory,\u201d said Master Sgt. Kevin Doheny, a spokesman for the division.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The same goes for the 3rd Infantry Division at Fort Stewart, Georgia, where soldiers are allowed to roll their sleeves as long as their first sergeant approves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Milley on June 16 announced a 10-day sleeve-rolling trial at Fort Hood after a soldier asked during a re-enlistment ceremony for permission to roll his sleeves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The issue of rolled sleeves \u2013 the Marine Corps allows sleeve-rolling in the summer, as do the Air Force and Navy \u2013 has been a hot topic among soldiers for years. In February, when Army Times asked readers what they wanted Dailey to tackle during his second year on the job, several wrote in asking for permission to roll their sleeves in the summer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Soldiers have not been allowed to roll up their sleeves since the Army Combat Uniform replaced the Battle Dress Uniform in 2005. The Army\u2019s official explanation was that the top was made to protect soldiers\u2019 forearms from the sun, insects and other elements, and it\u2019s not designed to be cuffed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sleeve-rolling is at the commander\u2019s discretion, said Sergeant Major of the Army Dan Dailey. And there are no time or seasonal limits as long as it\u2019s approved by your commander, he said, citing for example soldiers stationed in Hawaii, where the weather is warm pretty much all year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Soldiers also will be allowed cuff their sleeves, with the camo facing out, in a field environment, Dailey said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cYou can cuff your sleeves in temperate environments at the discretion of the commander and if there are no safety issues,\u201d Dailey said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

As a reminder, according to the Army memo:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Commanders may authorized rolled sleeves effective immediately.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The memo applies to the Army Combat Uniform in the Universal Camouflage Pattern, Operational Camouflage Pattern or Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage Pattern.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sleeves will be rolled with the camo facing out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sleeves will be rolled neatly above the elbow but no more than 3 inches above the elbow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Sleeves may be down and cuffed upon commander approval and only during field training exercises.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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