{"id":50290,"date":"2023-12-26T20:06:54","date_gmt":"2023-12-26T20:06:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/armytimes\/uncategorized\/2023\/12\/26\/police-didnt-confront-army-reservist-before-maine-shooting\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T04:16:16","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T04:16:16","slug":"police-didnt-confront-army-reservist-before-maine-shooting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/armytimes\/news\/2023\/12\/26\/police-didnt-confront-army-reservist-before-maine-shooting\/","title":{"rendered":"Police didn\u2019t confront Army reservist before Maine shooting"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">PORTLAND, Maine \u2014 Police who declined to confront an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armytimes.com\/news\/2023\/12\/11\/army-reservists-brain-sample-being-tested-amid-shooting-investigation\/\" target=\"_blank\">Army reservist<\/a> in the weeks before he killed 18 people in Maine\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armytimes.com\/news\/2023\/10\/26\/maine-mass-shooting-suspect-is-an-army-reservist\/\" target=\"_blank\">deadliest mass shooting<\/a> feared that doing so would \u201cthrow a stick of dynamite on a pool of gas,\u201d according to video released Friday by law enforcement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The video, which was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pressherald.com\/2023\/12\/22\/police-footage-details-unsuccessful-september-check-in-on-lewiston-shooter\/\" target=\"_blank\">released to the Portland Press Herald<\/a> and then sent to The Associated Press, documents a Sept. 16 call between Sagadahoc County Sheriff\u2019s Sgt. Aaron Skolfield and Army Reserve Capt. Jeremy Reamer. Skolfield was following up with Reamer about the potential threat posed by Robert Card, 40, who carried out the Oct. 25 attacks at a bowling alley and a restaurant. He was found dead two days later of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Military officials alerted police in September that Card had been hospitalized in July after exhibiting erratic behavior while training, that he still had access to weapons and that he had threatened to \u201cshoot up\u201d an Army reserve center in Saco, a city in southern Maine. The sheriff\u2019s department responded by briefly staking out the Saco facility and going to Card\u2019s home in Bowdoin for what Reamer described as a \u201cwelfare check.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2500\" height=\"1389\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/AP23356662704781.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"This still image from Sagadahoc County Sheriff\u2019s Office shows dash camera video from Sept. 16, 2023 as police approach Robert Card's father's house.\" class=\"wp-image-87389\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/AP23356662704781.jpg.jpg 2500w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/AP23356662704781.jpg.jpg?resize=300,167 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/AP23356662704781.jpg.jpg?resize=768,427 768w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/AP23356662704781.jpg.jpg?resize=1024,569 1024w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/AP23356662704781.jpg.jpg?resize=1536,853 1536w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/AP23356662704781.jpg.jpg?resize=2048,1138 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2500px) 100vw, 2500px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This still image from Sagadahoc County Sheriff\u2019s Office shows dash camera video from Sept. 16, 2023 as police approach Robert Card&#8217;s father&#8217;s house. (Sagadahog County Sheriff&#8217;s office\/Portland Press Herald via AP)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe only thing I would ask is if you could just document it,\u201d Reamer said. \u201cJust say, \u2018He was there, he was uncooperative. But we confirmed that he was alive and breathing.\u2019 And then we can go from there. That\u2019s, from my end here, all we\u2019re really looking for.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Skolfield mentioned <a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/maine-mass-shooting-yellow-flag-law-a9881fae8696d6aa327010a8e786f3c0\" target=\"_blank\">Maine\u2019s yellow flag law<\/a>, which can be used to remove guns from potentially dangerous people, after Reamer said Card had refused medical treatment after his hospitalization.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSo that, obviously, is a hurdle we have to deal with. But at the same time, we don\u2019t want to throw a stick of dynamite on a pool of gas, either \u2014 make things worse,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Reamer expressed similar concerns. \u201cI\u2019m a cop myself,\u201d he said. \u201cObviously, I don\u2019t want you guys to get hurt or do anything that would put you guys in a compromising position.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Auburn City Councilor Leroy Walker Sr., whose son Joseph Walker was killed in the shootings, expressed frustration with police after seeing the video. Joseph Walker was the manager of Schemengees Bar &amp; Grill, where part of the attack took place.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI would like to know what we train these people to do. Is it just to deliver mail? Or stop innocent people that may be driving 11 miles (per hour) over the speed limit?\u201d Walker said in a text message, noting that watching the video made him \u201csick.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the video, Skolfield referred to the Cards as \u201ca big family in this area,\u201d and said he didn\u2019t want to publicize that police were visiting the home. He told Reamer he would reach out to Card\u2019s brother, Ryan, to ensure family members had taken Card\u2019s guns, and a second video shows an officer at the father\u2019s home. After Card\u2019s father said he hadn\u2019t spoken with Ryan in several days, the officer said he would try again later.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI just wanted to make sure Robert doesn\u2019t do anything foolish at all,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sagadahoccountyme.gov\/departments_and_services\/sheriffs_office\/news_releases.php#outer-67\" target=\"_blank\">report<\/a> released last week by Sagadahoc Sheriff Joel Merry made clear that local law enforcement knew months before the attack that Card\u2019s mental health was deteriorating. Police were aware of reports that he was paranoid, hearing voices, experiencing psychotic episodes and possibly dealing with schizophrenia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Merry and Lewiston city officials declined to comment on the release of the videos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But Stephanie Sherman, an attorney who has represented several families of survivors of the 2022 mass shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, said the videos show officers took a disturbingly casual approach to the threat Card posed. Police had more than enough information to take to a local judge, she said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThere was a history of problems within the Army, there was a history of institutionalization. The police knew that this person was having hallucinations,\u201d Sherman said. \u201cSo there was a whole batch of problems that they quickly could have gotten an order to confiscate the guns, and even possibly put the person in custody. Not criminal custody, but some kind of psychiatric hold.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sherman said, however, that police tend to rely on immunity, which historically has shielded them from liability when they avoid taking an action such as placing a person in custody.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A former New York Police Department detective sergeant who reviewed the videos for the AP said the events preceding the shooting illustrate the difficulty in applying Maine\u2019s yellow flag law. Lax laws about removing weapons from dangerous people is a problem in numerous states, said Felipe Rodriguez, an adjunct professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe laws are just too convoluted and they are working against each other. That\u2019s the biggest problem we have,\u201d Rodriguez said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dan Flannery, the director of the Begun Center for Violence Prevention Research and Education at Case Western Reserve University, cautioned that only so much about a police investigation can be gleaned from a few minutes of video.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThere is always context, there is the issue of what is the training and protocol within the division,\u201d Flannery said. \u201cViolent behavior is unfortunately one of the most difficult things to predict.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But attorneys for shooting victims\u2019 families said the footage supports a pattern of police ignoring clear warning signs about Card in the weeks prior to the shooting. One of the attorneys, Ben Gideon of Auburn, said \u201cwatching that footage, knowing what happened approximately six weeks later, is chilling and surreal.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The attorneys said they are looking forward to an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armytimes.com\/news\/your-army\/2023\/12\/18\/army-watchdog-will-launch-investigation-into-maine-mass-shooting\/\" target=\"_blank\">independent Army inspector general\u2019s full accounting of the events<\/a> leading up to the shootings. Some of the information they\u2019ve gathered so far, including the video released Friday, is \u201chighly concerning,\u201d said Travis Brennan, another attorney for the families.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt\u2019s one example of many of system failures. There is no question here that this is an individual who had overt warning signs,\u201d Brennan said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The last patient of 13 who were admitted to Central Maine Medical Center after the shooting has been released, hospital representatives said Friday.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In addition to the inspector general\u2019s investigation, Gov. Janet Mills appointed an <a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/maine-mass-shooting-lewiston-commission-1f42f0b39ddc2a046b1701a0115186a8\" target=\"_blank\">an independent commission<\/a> led by a former state chief justice to review all aspects of the tragedy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The actions of authorities ahead of and during mass shootings have come under increasing scrutiny. Last year, the Air Force was ordered to pay more than <a href=\"https:\/\/www.airforcetimes.com\/news\/your-air-force\/2022\/02\/07\/air-force-ordered-to-pay-more-than-230m-in-texas-church-shooting\/\" target=\"_blank\">$230 million<\/a> in damages to survivors and victims\u2019 families for failing to flag a conviction that might have kept the gunman in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.airforcetimes.com\/news\/your-air-force\/2021\/04\/09\/former-airman-who-gunned-down-texas-church-goers-likely-planned-the-attack-for-months\/\" target=\"_blank\">2017 church shooting in Texas<\/a> from legally buying the weapon he used in the attack.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After a gunman fatally shot 19 children and two teachers at the school in Uvalde last year, state lawmakers issued a scathing report faulting <a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/shootings-texas-education-violence-school-31aa135678f8118ed96d893ea77cf8ea\" target=\"_blank\">law enforcement at every level<\/a> with failing \u201cto prioritize saving innocent lives over their own safety.\u201d Several officers lost their jobs over the halting and haphazard response, and a state prosecutor is <a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/uvalde-school-shooting-district-attorney-grand-jury-82fc7f7bb511d54b4bd9618bd144824b\" target=\"_blank\">still considering<\/a> whether to bring criminal charges.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i>Ramer reported from Concord, New Hampshire. Associated Press writers Lindsay Whitehurst in Washington, Nick Perry in Meredith, New Hampshire, and Jake Bleiberg in Dallas contributed.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Videos show police had safety concerns about confronting an Army reservist in the weeks before the Oct. 25 mass shooting in 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