{"id":9787,"date":"2016-08-23T22:34:04","date_gmt":"2016-08-23T22:34:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/c4isrnet\/uncategorized\/2016\/08\/23\/how-is-cerdec-combating-threats-to-the-army\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T17:47:44","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T17:47:44","slug":"how-is-cerdec-combating-threats-to-the-army","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/c4isrnet\/special-reports\/pm-view\/2016\/08\/23\/how-is-cerdec-combating-threats-to-the-army\/","title":{"rendered":"How is CERDEC combating threats to the Army?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i>As technical capabilities for soldiers<\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i>such as reliable tactical communications for expeditionary forces,\u00a0cyber defense and electronic maneuvers<\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u2013<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i>become more important as adversaries look to deny\u00a0capabilities, Army Communications-Electronics Research, Development and Engineering Center (CERDEC) aims to provide war fighters with the tools they need to succeed on the battlefield.<\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i>C4ISRNET Reporter Mark Pomerleau caught up with John Willison, director of the space terrestrial communications directorate at CERDEC, to discuss his office&#8217;s role in combating advanced threats and ensuring technical success.<\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>C4ISRNET: Can you provide a brief overview of what your office is working on to help the war fighter?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Willison:<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We\u2019re a research, development and engineering organization. We\u2019re currently at about 400 government engineers and scientists and another equal number of on-site contractors that augment our staff. Our mission is twofold: One [part] is we do research and development. The other is we provide engineering support into program executive offices and program management offices. That engineering support, while it\u2019s not our core mission group, presents between two-thirds and three quarters of what we do on a year-to-year basis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From a science and technology (S&#038;T) or a research and development (R&#038;D) perspective our R&#038;D budget is typically somewhere between $50 and $60 million a year, and we break that R&#038;D work into four specific areas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The first one is cyber and our emphasis within cyber is cyber defense, cyber situational awareness \u2013 one of our sister organizations does the offensive cyber portion. Within that space we worry about cyber defense tools, network analysis tools for if an intruder in the network, how do we alert people to what\u2019s going on within the network so that the network can be as well defended as possible when someone does get in, [and] what tools do we have to figure out what to do about that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The second space is uninterrupted communications. Between cyber and uninterrupted, it\u2019s really kind of two parts of the same problem. From a cyber [perspective] we\u2019re worried about cyber threats. From an uninterrupted communications we\u2019re worried about either electronic warfare threats or limitations caused by the environment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So the way we break that down is we\u2019re worried about contested environments \u2013 and that\u2019s an EW threat to our environment from an enemy, it is congested environments and so that can be just how do we more effectively and efficiently use the spectrum that we have access to? And it\u2019s degraded environments where we could be somewhere where communications and networks propagation is challenged by the environment. So between those two, that\u2019s the bulk of our S&#038;T investments right now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The third part of our portfolio is expeditionary networking, and here we\u2019re heavily leveraging commercial technologies and adapting them to the Army-unique space. So we get into things like how do you apply cellular on a battlefield, how do we apply broadband or ultralight band to allow soldiers to have less wires on them and be more wireless, unique networking or routing protocol or cognitive networking to really get after that first 40 hours from an early entry operations, or from an expeditionary maneuver operation before an infrastructure is laid in from an Army perspective. How do you enable folks to do what they need to do in that first 40 hours?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The final space\u00a0\u2013\u00a0and it\u2019s a small space for us but it\u2019s an important space\u00a0\u2013\u00a0is model and simulation, other\u00a0capabilities that are enabling for infrastructure, test capabilities to enable the other three.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>C4ISRNET: What are the threats the Army is facing in this space?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Willison:<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cyber is a lot harder to pin down the threat, but we have categories of threats. The insider threat is one category we\u2019re worried about. Cyberattacks are obviously another category that we\u2019re worried about. And depending on which category of threats we\u2019re worried about to the network and depending on where we\u2019re operating, we then look at different technologies or employing different tools to help the network operators, to help network defenders within that space.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The uninterrupted is a little different. The threat doesn\u2019t necessarily evolve as quickly, so EW threats don\u2019t change as quickly as the cyber threats change, so we get an opportunity to do a more deliberate engineering assessment of what the threats are. But it\u2019s still a relatively complex space because you\u2019ve got to worry about all the variables of what we\u2019ve deployed into what regions, what capabilities does an enemy have that we understand and how have they deployed them in different regions and that\u2019s going to differ region to region, that\u2019s going to differ type of conflict by type of conflict, and that\u2019s going to differ from what forces of ours have we deployed and what forces have they deployed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>C4ISRNET: Everyone thinks of Russia as the top threat in EMS and EW. Who are some of the other threat actors in this space with significant capabilities?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Willison:<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From our perspective we think about threats in a couple of different ways. One is when you say Russia is a threat, really what we\u2019re talking about is a couple of things. One is their technical capabilities and then the way they fight. Their technical capabilities aren\u2019t limited to them because they\u2019ll sell those technical capabilities to someone else as will China as will other folks. We\u2019ve got to factor that in that those capabilities won\u2019t be limited.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Now the way they fight is a different perspective and the theater is a different perspective as well. And so we\u2019ve looked at this as kind of multidimensional whether it\u2019s Pacific, Pacific in general\u00a0 and what are the capabilities that exist out there from a technical system and then how do they fight or how are they deployed, and then from Europe. So it\u2019s more from our perspective kind of regional as opposed to picking that country, that adversary, because there\u2019s a lot that comes with it \u2013 to include on our side coalition. And how we think about, you know, we never anywhere alone. So what is the threat environment?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When a lot of people talk about threats they talk about box on box \u2013 we\u2019ve got a box and they\u2019ve got a box; good starting point. How are those boxes deployed, what\u2019s the quantity, what other things do they work with? And then the third part we\u2019ve layered in is what do we do with that? So instead of just saying my radio doesn\u2019t work, we can say ,well I can\u2019t do a medevac call. That\u2019s more significant now than the folks that make the trade space, so we\u2019ve broadened it to try and look at just not one theater, obviously that one theater is getting a lot of press, a lot of attention.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>C4ISRNET: While most people talk about how the threat is multi-domain, it seems, especially the way Russia is employing capabilities, that the land domain is the big focus in terms of where the threat actually is.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Willison:<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From an Army perspective, land \u2013 Pacific, now you\u2019re talking about a different threat and a different construct from an Army \u2013 you start talking about A2\/AD.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>C4ISRNET: With your engineering, S&#038;T and R&#038;D mission set, how do you work to transition the tools and capabilities within the three areas mentioned above \u2013 cyber, uninterrupted communications and expeditionary networking \u2013 into programs of record and tools that the war fighter can actually use in theater?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Willison:<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With our S&#038;T investments we typically take a three-step approach. We start where we can with model and simulation activity, so that allows us before we invest very heavily into building capabilities within S&#038;T that we\u2019ve based that on our modeling and simulation work, and importantly that it\u2019s not modeling and simulating, only one specific capability. It\u2019s embedding that in our ability to model and simulate the overall network environment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So [almost] every capability we\u2019re introducing into the Army &#8230; has an effect on the network. You\u2019re falling in on a network that already has other people on that network competing for network capability, competing for spectrum usage. So importantly when we look at individual capabilities, we look at individual capabilities as modeled within the broader overall Army, joint or coalition environment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From modeling and simulation, we then move into doing S&#038;T once we get a prototype capability. The second step is going into lab-based risk reduction. So we bring that into our own federated network of labs so that we can take the capability that we\u2019ve prototyped and embed that, integrate that into the overall environments so that gives us some sense of is it meeting the performance requirements that we\u2019ve outlined? Are those performance requirements we\u2019ve outlined then yielding the operational capability that we\u2019re interested in?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Once that gets sufficiently mature, the last step is we go into field-based production. For us, CERDEC overall, we\u2019ve got two specific field-based risk reduction venues \u2013 both are up in New Jersey. Both are at Joint Base McGuire\u2013Dix\u2013Lakehurst. What we\u2019ve got there is the ability to take our technology up to those different ranges. Those ranges are in turn networked back to our labs here, and so we\u2019re able to then try out the technology within those different operational environments, preferably exposing the capability to soldiers who are going to use them to give us feedback &#8230; so that once we\u2019ve done the modeling and simulation, once we\u2019ve done the lab-based risk reduction, then we ultimately do field-based risk reduction, we\u2019re able to mature the capability sufficiently enough then we\u2019ve brought down the risk of transitioning it to a program of record.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>C4ISRNET: What are the biggest tactical and strategic challenges you and your staff are facing right now? <br\/><\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Willison:<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Look at our three different portfolios. It really reflects what we believe are the three different, most significant operational challenges.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With expeditionary and early entry operations, given contested environments in contested regions, the ability to get expeditionary [capabilities] without compromising too much of the network capability we have is a huge challenge. Obviously some of the things we\u2019re looking at there are wireless command post, wireless soldiers, the ability to share data locally. The quicker you can get in with the least amount of setup and the least amount of infrastructure, then that\u2019s a huge challenge from an Army perspective.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Uninterrupted communications: So this is an area we\u2019ve shifted more investment into to reflect a greater appreciation for the EW threats that exist. 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