{"id":15488,"date":"2020-02-10T13:15:11","date_gmt":"2020-02-10T13:15:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/uncategorized\/2020\/02\/10\/mark-esper-on-the-big-pivot-point-that-will-define-the-2022-budget\/"},"modified":"2026-08-07T21:29:15","modified_gmt":"2026-08-07T21:29:15","slug":"mark-esper-on-the-big-pivot-point-that-will-define-the-2022-budget","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/smr\/federal-budget\/2020\/02\/10\/mark-esper-on-the-big-pivot-point-that-will-define-the-2022-budget\/","title":{"rendered":"Mark Esper on the \u2018big pivot point\u2019 that will define the 2022 budget"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">WASHINGTON \u2014 On the eve of rolling out his first budget since taking the top job in the Pentagon, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper is showing his support for the Air Force\u2019s multi-domain concept and a revolution in naval shipbuilding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But in an exclusive interview with Defense News, Esper also indicated that a major update to the Pentagon\u2019s war plans will be a driving factor in how the department shapes its next budget request, to be unveiled a year from now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The secretary acknowledged that his stamp on the fiscal year 2021 budget, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/congress\/budget\/2020\/01\/06\/trump-budget-coming-feb-10\/\" target=\"_blank\">coming Monday<\/a>, will be somewhat limited, given he <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/video\/2019\/07\/24\/esper-sworn-in-as-secretary-of-defense-defense-news-minute-july-24-2019\/\" target=\"_blank\">took office in August<\/a>, by which point most of the service budget work had already been completed. But he indicated that major budget movements may <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/2019\/08\/30\/espers-pledge-to-trim-pointless-programs-will-test-his-political-clout\/\" target=\"_blank\">be on the table<\/a> come FY22.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/smr\/federal-budget\/\" target=_blank><b>Click here for more coverage of the FY21 budget rollout<\/b><\/a><b>.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe services have already developed their budgets at that point. So now it\u2019s at Office of the Secretary of Defense level. As you know, at this point I was able to go through budgets, free up money. I was able to move some money around. But, to me, my big impact will be on the upcoming budget,\u201d Esper said Friday.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThis budget will reflect as much of my imprint on it as I could make in three months,\u201d he added. \u201cThe next budget that we&#8217;re developing now, clearly, will have my fingerprints all over it.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Those fingerprints start with Esper\u2019s ongoing development of what he described as a \u201cmodern, up-to-date, approved war plan against our near peers, at least one of them, so that we know it&#8217;s current and it&#8217;s in the post [National Defense Strategy] environment. We don&#8217;t have one of those right now.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/breaking-news\/2020\/02\/09\/defense-secretary-mark-esper-on-how-the-navy-can-get-to-355-ships\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/esper_navy_1.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Defense Secretary Mark Esper on how the Navy can get to 355 ships<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">In an exclusive interview with Defense News, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper makes the case of how and why the Navy can hit 355 ships by 2030.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He added that plan, which is \u201ca big pivot point for us,\u201d should be completed sometime in the summer. But in the meantime, the department will be conducting war games, exercises and compute simulations that can help inform the development of the FY22 budget request.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cOne thing that our war gaming and analysis will look at is the total force fight. You just don&#8217;t fight one service. You don&#8217;t fight the Army, you don&#8217;t fight the Air Force, you don&#8217;t fight the Navy, you fight the team, the joint team. That&#8217;s how we&#8217;ve got to experiment.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In addition to the war plan effort, a series of reviews launched by Esper \u2014 including one studying the force levels <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/pentagon\/2020\/01\/24\/good-news-or-bad-pentagon-review-of-southcom-kicks-off\/\" target=_blank>at the combatant commands<\/a> and one looking for ways to find savings to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/congress\/budget\/2020\/02\/06\/heres-how-much-money-the-pentagon-found-through-internal-savings-and-where-its-going\/\" target=_blank>reinvest into modernization efforts<\/a> \u2014 will likely have a major impact on what the FY22 budget looks like.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Multi-domain investments<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Notably, Esper threw his support behind the Air Force\u2019s joint all domain control (JADC2) concept, which seeks to connect its air, space and cyber assets <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/air\/2020\/01\/06\/what-if-air-force-tankers-became-a-communications-node\/\" target=_blank>together with platforms<\/a> from the other military services. The concept has been championed by Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein, who will be retiring this summer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cYou&#8217;ve got to be able to have that. The Air Force is moving out on JADC2. I like where they&#8217;re going. I like what they&#8217;re doing,\u201d Esper said. \u201cThe other services are taking a close look at it, but we clearly need to have the ability to exchange information and data and voice across [uncommon] systems, across services, across platforms. That&#8217;s the way we&#8217;ll win in the future is being able to move data quickly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cA drone sees an enemy target, relays it to an airplane, an F-35, which relays it to a Navy ship, which either shoots it or relays it back to a Marine Corps long-range precision fire that\u2019s island-based,\u201d Esper added. \u201cYou\u2019ve got to be able to exchange information like that.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/newsletters\/daily-news-roundup\/2020\/01\/23\/how-the-army-and-air-force-are-linking-comms\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"204\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/33_Day1.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">How the Army and Air Force are linking comms<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">The Army and Air Force are starting to partner on building common frameworks for networks and communications systems.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The secretary also gave strong backing to the idea the Navy needs to start investing in small, optionally-manned or unmanned surface vessels in order to stay ahead of military advancements from near-peer competitors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThese designs must ensure the future fleet can remain ready and lethal over its lifetime by being agile, affordable, sustainable, and adaptable to an ever-changing and more complex maritime security environment,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What happens to this year\u2019s budget request when it hits Congress is always a major question hanging over the department. But 2020 \u2014 an election year, in the wake of the impeachment of President Donald Trump \u2014 may prove to overtake the largely bipartisan work that has defined the House and Senate Armed Services Committees.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Already this year, Mac Thornberry, the top republican on the HASC, publicly warned that Democrats pushing for a vote that could limit Trump\u2019s use of military force \u201cthreatens our ability to work together.&#8221; He added, \u201cwe\u2019re the exception around here and it will be harder and harder for us to be insulated from the partisan waves that overwhelm us if something like this takes place.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Esper acknowledged that things are \u201calways a little bit more complicated in an election year,\u201d but expressed optimism that the bipartisan tradition will prevail on defense spending.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI know that ranking members and chairmen work well together, and there&#8217;s generally a sense of spirit of bipartisanship in those committees, so I&#8217;m confident they&#8217;ll get it done. 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