{"id":21961,"date":"2018-09-19T21:18:46","date_gmt":"2018-09-19T21:18:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/uncategorized\/2018\/09\/19\/future-pakistan-turkish-defense-cooperation-likely-to-be-incremental-for-now\/"},"modified":"2026-08-07T21:59:07","modified_gmt":"2026-08-07T21:59:07","slug":"future-pakistan-turkish-defense-cooperation-likely-to-be-incremental-for-now","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/global\/asia-pacific\/2018\/09\/19\/future-pakistan-turkish-defense-cooperation-likely-to-be-incremental-for-now\/","title":{"rendered":"Future Pakistan-Turkish defense cooperation likely to be incremental, for now"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">ISLAMABAD \u2014 Pakistan\u2019s ambassador to Turkey pledged this week to increase defense cooperation between the two countries to new levels, but after a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/naval\/2018\/07\/05\/pakistan-inks-naval-shipbuilding-technology-transfer-deal-with-turkey\/\" target=\"_blank\">string of recent deals<\/a>, analysts believe further cooperation will be incremental.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Speaking to Turkey\u2019s Daily Sabah, Muhammad Syrus Sajjad Qazi highlighted defense relations such as recent deals for platforms like the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/air\/2018\/07\/13\/pakistan-chooses-turkish-t129-attack-helos-to-replace-aging-fleet\/\" target=\"_blank\">T-129 helicopter gunships<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/naval\/2017\/12\/27\/pakistan-shops-for-warships-to-replace-british-frigates-modernize-navy\/\" target=\"_blank\">Milgem corvettes<\/a>, which he said would further improve as the countries continue to explore new opportunities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The existing deals alone are likely to see substantial offsets and technological input for Pakistani industry, and build upon existing supply of defense technology critical for all three branches of Pakistan\u2019s military. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pakistan\u2019s defense industry generally lags behind other nations, and has struggled to offer much in return bar a deal for the PAC Super Mushak basic training aircraft, further highlighting the importance of the relationship between Ankara and Islamabad.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Asked exactly how that relationship may further improve, Brian Cloughley, and author, analyst, and former Australian defense attach\u00e9 to Islamabad, said there is room to do so. He highlighted training as one area of cooperation, thanks to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/global\/mideast-africa\/2018\/01\/08\/pakistan-pushed-into-chinas-embrace-as-us-cuts-military-aid\/\" target=_blank>tensions between Pakistan and the U.S.<\/a>, along with armored personnel carriers and future orders of helicopters. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While Turkish AFV-related technology is already finding its way onto Pakistani APCs and tanks, Pakistan is exploring options to supplement or even replace its M113 type APCs, perhaps with an IFV design, with Turkey\u2019s Kaplan or Tulpar IFV programs potentially of interest.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Turkey\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/global\/europe\/2018\/09\/10\/turkeys-homegrown-helo-makes-maiden-flight\/\" target=_blank>T625 multirole transport helicopter<\/a> may also be considered to replace Pakistan\u2019s range of legacy types.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Both countries also have active fifth generation fighter development projects, but analysts believe this level of cooperation is presently a step too far.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/global\/the-americas\/2018\/08\/13\/diplomatic-row-jeopardizes-15b-helicopter-deal-between-turkey-and-pakistan\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"178\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/1454921.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Diplomatic row jeopardizes $1.5B helicopter deal between Turkey and Pakistan<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">Turkey and Pakistan signed a deal in July for 30 T129 ATAK helicopter gunships. That may not happen now.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Justin Bronk, an analyst with the RUSI think tank, raises concerns given \u201cthe lack of any proven domestic capacity in both Pakistan and Turkey to produce a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/air\/2017\/02\/01\/despite-industry-deal-unknowns-cloud-turkish-fighter-jet-plans\/\" target=_blank>fifth-generation fighter<\/a>, than with any issues around security or industrial interests.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cNeither country is in any position to develop such capabilities for the foreseeable future without massive external assistance and technology transfer,\u201d he said<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That idea is echoed by author, analyst, and former air force pilot Kaiser Tufail, who nevertheless stresses their respective fifth generation programs \u201cmust continue for a long-term goal of manufacture\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tufail believes both nations should co-operate on an interim type of jet, with some of the technical characteristics of a full fifth-generation fighter \u201crather than jumping straight to a full-capability fifth generation fighter.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Though new to aircraft manufacture, he believes Pakistan has gained a slight edge over its potential partner, having co-produced the JF-17, \u201cessentially a Chinese design based on PAF&#8217;s specifications\u201d, though there is still \u201cneed for collaboration in design and production of any new fighter.\u201d Turkey in comparison, though having license produced F-16s, lacks comparable modern fighter design experience. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Their close relationship makes fighter co-production \u201clogical\u201d though, he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Therefore, present co-operation \u201ccould 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