{"id":27146,"date":"2016-03-01T22:41:56","date_gmt":"2016-03-01T22:41:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/uncategorized\/2016\/03\/01\/norwegian-f-35-pilot-counters-controversial-dogfighting-report\/"},"modified":"2026-08-07T22:17:53","modified_gmt":"2026-08-07T22:17:53","slug":"norwegian-f-35-pilot-counters-controversial-dogfighting-report","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/air\/2016\/03\/01\/norwegian-f-35-pilot-counters-controversial-dogfighting-report\/","title":{"rendered":"Norwegian F-35 Pilot Counters Controversial \u2018Dogfighting\u2019 Report"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">WASHINGTON \u2013 For the first time since a controversial report\u00a0detailing how the F-35 performs in a dogfight emerged last summer, an F-35 pilot gave an in-depth analysis of his experience flying the jet in a close-range battle scenario.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Norwegian Air Force Maj. Morten &#8220;Dolby&#8221; Hanche, the first Norwegian to fly the F-35, analyzed\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">wrote a detailed analysis of <\/span>the jet\u2019s performance in a dogfight in a March 1 blog post published on Norway\u2019s Ministry of Defense\u00a0website.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<style>.oembed-asset-link { background: #fff; border-bottom: 1px solid #e1e1e1; }.oembed-link-anchor { display: block; clear: both; }.oembed-link-thumbnail{ float: left; padding: 14px; }.oembed-link-thumbnail img { max-width: 78px; max-height: 60px; display: block; }p.oembed-link-title { font-size: 75%; color: #009BFF; margin: 0 14px; padding-top: 12px; font-weight:normal; text-align: left; line-height: 120%;  }p.oembed-link-desc { font-size: 100%; color: #666; font-weight: normal; margin: 0 14px 14px 14px; font-family: 'Futura Today Light'; text-align: left; line-height: 120%; }<\/style>\n\n\n\n\n\n<p>Although Hanche never mentions the <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">infamous <\/span>2015 report,\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">entitled<\/span> &#8220;F-35A High Angle of Attack Operational Maneuvers&#8221; and <a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/war-is-boring\/test-pilot-admits-the-f-35-can-t-dogfight-cdb9d11a875\">revealed<\/a> last summer by blogger David Axe on WarisBoring.com,\u00a0he counters many of the anonymous author\u2019s claims.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The 2015 report criticized the F-35\u2019s lack of power and maneuverability compared to the F-16\u00a0during high angle of attack <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">(AOA) <\/span>exercises. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">compared to the F-16. <\/span>The F-35 &#8220;was at a distinct energy disadvantage in a turning fight,&#8221; the author wrote, also noting that &#8220;pitch rates were too slow to prosecute or deny weapons.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By contract<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;This improved ability to point at my opponent enables me to deliver weapons earlier than I am used to with the F-16, it forces my opponent to react even more defensively, and it gives me the ability to reduce the airspeed quicker than in the F-16,&#8221; wrote Hanche, a US Navy test pilot school graduate with 2,200 flight hours in Lockheed Martin&#8217;s F-16.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hanche now serves as an instructor and the assistant weapons officer with the 62nd fighter squadron at Luke Air Force Base, Arizona.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the defensive role, the pilot can &#8220;whip&#8221; the F-35 around while simultaneously slowing down, Hanche wrote. The plane can actually slow down more quickly than a driver is able to emergency brake a car.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At its maximum angle of attack, the F-35 <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">actually <\/span>reacts more quickly to the pilot\u2019s &#8220;pedal inputs,&#8221; which command the nose of the plane from side to side, than does the F-16, according to Hanche.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;This gives me an alternate way of pointing the airplane where I need it to, in order to threaten an opponent,&#8221; Hanche wrote. &#8220;This &#8216;pedal turn&#8217; yields an impressive turn rate, even at low airspeeds. In a defensive situation, the &#8216;pedal turn&#8217; provides me the ability to rapidly neutralize a situation, or perhaps even reverse the roles entirely.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hanche did have several critiques of the F-35&#8217;s performance, including a shaking or &#8220;buffeting&#8221; at high g-loadings and high angles of attack. In comparison, the F-16 hardly shakes at all, he noted. This buffeting has made it difficult for several F-35 pilots to read the information displayed on the heads-up display. However, Hanche has not found this to be an issue while using the third-generation helmet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Both <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">pilots &#8212; <\/span>Hanche and the anonymous author of the 2015 report agreed the headrest makes it more difficult to see behind the aircraft. 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This enabled him to see around the sides of the seat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hanche stressed that he was still able to maintain visual contact with his opponent during aggressive maneuvering, and the cockpit&#8217;s visual limitation is not &#8220;a genuine problem with the F-35.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;For now my conclusion is that this is an airplane that allows me to be more forward and aggressive than I could ever be in an F-16,&#8221; Hanche wrote. &#8220;So how does <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">the <\/span>the F-35 behave in a dogfight? &#8230;\u00a0To sum it up, my experience so far is that the F-35 makes it easier for me to maintain the offensive role, and it provides me more opportunities to effectively employ weapons at my opponent.&#8221;\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Email:\u00a0<a href=\"mailto:lseligman@defensenews.com\">lseligman@defensenews.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Twitter:\u00a0<a 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