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A report from the Italian senate has also pointed out that the EU has provisionally excluded the dissemination of funding to support activity operated by firms outside the confines of the European Union. That is a problem for Leonardo, which owns facilities in the U.K., which is about to leave the EU.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But one Italian analyst said the problem would be solved by an inter-government working group which is fine tuning the EU plans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cEuropean groups with capacity outside the EU will need to give guarantees that the know-how being funded is not used outside the EU without specific authorization,\u201d said Michele Nones, scientific adviser at the IAI think tank in Rome. \u201cIf you develop a product with EU funds you will need to keep control of that technology. If you have production in the U.K., you must guarantee the results stay in the EU,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Italian senate also worried about the EU suggestion that companies receiving funding should be at least 50 percent EU owned. Leonardo is only 30 percent owned by the Italian state. Nones said that problem would also be tackled.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThis is a criterion which in not practical if you consider the continual evolution of company share ownership and how European companies can enter into international groups,\u201d he said. \u201cThese things don\u2019t change the European identity of the firms if their technological capacity and management continues to be in the EU. Moreover, in all big EU states, foreign investment in strategic sectors is monitored.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Leonardo has in any case already joined cross border consortia to apply for funds for the first two research programs the EU has said it will invest in, with recipients to be chosen by year end. Leonardo is team leader of a group of 16 EU firms, seven research institutes, 14 small companies and five potential customers \u2014 together representing a total of 15 member states \u2014 which is applying for an initial \u20ac15 million in funding to research naval unmanned helicopters. The Italian firm is part of a group led by Germany\u2019s Rhinemetall which is applying for \u20ac7 million in research funding on the second program announced, which covers force protection and advanced soldier systems.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">During his address to the Italian parliament, Profumo said he was concerned about one aspect of European integration \u2014 the mooted team-up between Italian and French shipyards Fincantieri and Naval Group. The two firms are talking about jointly developing new naval vessels, but questions have been raised over potential competition between Leonardo and France\u2019s Thales, which both make naval systems.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/industry\/2017\/10\/24\/naval-airbus-in-europe-could-lead-to-industry-shake-up\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/8_specialreport_naval.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">\u2018Naval Airbus\u2019 in Europe could lead to industry shake-up<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">As French and Italian officials begin a series of meetings to decide how to integrate the two nations\u2019 naval industries, officials in Italy need to figure out what to do with Leonardo.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As talks proceed between Fincantieri and Naval Group, Thales will have a seat at the table since it owns 35 percent of Naval Group, while Leonardo will not have a look in.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThere are three components to a ship,\u201d said Profumo. \u201cThe platform, the combat systems and the radar. In Italy, Fincantieri makes the platform and we make the combat systems and the radar&#8230; In France, Naval Group makes platforms and combat systems, while Thales makes radars and sensors. We think our work on combat systems and radars is a patrimony of this country, in which we have invested, and which requires protection.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI am concerned because our French friends are good at protecting their capabilities and it seems opportune to pay specific attention to this,\u201d he added.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The CEO also turned his attention to the TX trainer competition in the U.S., in which Leonardo is competing its M-346 jet trainer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe are participating to win,\u201d he said. \u201cIt is fundamentally a competition based on the price of the aircraft. I can assure you we will not offer a price which would lose us money on the aircraft. 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