{"id":44663,"date":"2017-07-28T19:50:52","date_gmt":"2017-07-28T19:50:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/uncategorized\/2017\/07\/28\/experts-question-the-navys-ideas-for-a-new-frigate\/"},"modified":"2026-08-07T23:42:15","modified_gmt":"2026-08-07T23:42:15","slug":"experts-question-the-navys-ideas-for-a-new-frigate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/naval\/2017\/07\/28\/experts-question-the-navys-ideas-for-a-new-frigate\/","title":{"rendered":"Experts question the US Navy\u2019s ideas for a new frigate"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><div>WASHINGTON \u2014&nbsp;A panel of analysts raised questions Tuesday about the U.S. Navy\u2019s recent request for information from industry on a new frigate that it wants to begin buying in fiscal year 2020.<br><\/div><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In a hearing before the Senate Armed Services Seapower Subcommittee, several noted experts called into question the U.S. Navy\u2019s underlying analysis in the kind of frigate its looking for to replace its beleaguered littoral combat ship, or LCS, program.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In early July, the U.S. Navy released an RFI seeking a mature design that can be adapted to couple with combat and mechanical systems already in wide use in the U.S. Navy and can fully integrate with a carrier strike group. Among the capabilities the U.S. Navy wanted in its FFG(X) was the ability hunt submarines, kill ships over the horizon and operate independently in high-end threat environments, which would mean a robust counter-missile capability.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The U.S. Navy is looking to buy 20 FFG(X) ships.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In response to a question from subcommittee chairman Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., Bryan Clark, a retired submariner and analyst with the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, said he thought the RFI was too vague and questioned whether the u.s Navy actually knows what it wants.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI think what [the RFI] does is open up the aperture too much in terms of what that future frigate could be,\u201d Clark said. \u201cIt makes it seem like it could be anything from a ship that\u2019s only able to do surface warfare and [surveillance] missions in support of distributed lethality, the Navy\u2019s new surface concept \u2014&nbsp;a relatively low-end ship or less-capable ship \u2014&nbsp;all the way up to a frigate that can do air defense for another ship and do anti-submarine warfare.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/breaking-news\/2017\/07\/10\/frigate-competition-wide-open-navy-specs-reveal-major-design-shift\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"163\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/635684249329326951-lcs08-140805-01hjpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Frigate competition wide open: Navy specs reveal major design shift<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">Labeling the ship the FFG(X), the ship will be expected to keep up with the full carrier strike group and operate independently in high-end threat environments. <\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI think the Navy needs to \u2014&nbsp;instead of opening a wide aperture and seeing what comes in \u2014&nbsp;make some choices about what they need the ship to do, and it needs to be a more capable ship that\u2019s able to do multiple missions.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ronald O\u2019Rourke, a naval expert with the Congressional Research Service, refrained from overtly criticizing the U.S. Navy\u2019s RFI, but said the Navy needs to make sure it gets the underlying analysis right and not to rush to build before knowing exactly what it needs. That, he said, was what the U.S Navy got wrong from the outset on the LCS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThis is going to be our third attempt, in the last 15 years, to try and get right the issue of small surface combatant procurement,\u201d O\u2019Rourke said. \u201cWhen we started the LCS program in the 2002-2003 timeframe, the Navy didn\u2019t do all the homework, in my view, that it needed to, to provide a firm analytical foundation for the program.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAnd the weakness in that analytical foundation, in my view, that I\u2019ve argued for many years now, is a principal reason behind many of the difficulties that the LCS program experienced in subsequent years. They have a chance to get it right again this time. \u2026 If they don\u2019t put a firm analytical foundation under this effort, there will be a risk of this effort also experiencing difficulties in execution in the years ahead.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jerry Hendrix, a retired Naval Flight Officer and analyst with the Center for a New American Security, said he was particularly concerned with the requirement for fuel and range at 16 knots, which the U.S. Navy set at 3,000 miles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hendrix argued that the U.S. Navy never runs its ships down to empty on the fuel tank, so 3,000 miles of maximum range would mean that the ship would have to conduct a refueling during a transatlantic crossing. Hendrix argues that convoy escort duty should be a key consideration for the new frigate \u2014&nbsp;convoys would be vital in getting troops and supplies to Europe in the event of a conflict with Russia \u2014&nbsp;and that as a result, more range would be necessary.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt struck me that something in the 4,500- to 6,000-mile range ought to be, sort of, a walking in the door minimum, and the higher the better in order for it to give the most independent steaming out of it,\u201d Hendrix said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hendrix also argued that the ship should be able to defend itself from air threats but shouldn\u2019t be part of a layered air defense of the carrier because other ships can perform that mission.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWhere we have a real deficit is anti-surface and anti-submarine warfare,\u201d Hendrix said. \u201cAnd any time that you cause a ship or require a ship to be good at all things, you\u2019re going to drive up the cost factor. \u2026 I look generally in the $700 million to $850 million range per unit, that if you exceed that by adding in air defense capability, certainly, we start edging over $1 billion per copy. And, at that point in time, we\u2019ll find ourselves in argument [arguing,] \u2018Shouldn\u2019t we just buy some more [Arleigh Burke-class destroyers]?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>\u2018Network everything\u2019<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What the U.S. Navy needs more than anything is to increase its networking between units in order to increase the capacity of the current fleet, according to the U.S. Navy\u2019s top officer, Adm. John Richardson. And in the RFI, the U.S. Navy, above all else, seems to want the ship to be able to plug into a larger network of sensors to increase its situational awareness of any given theater.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIn the extreme, I\u2019d want to network everything to everything,\u201d Richardson said in a recent talk.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The RFI envisions the FFG(X) as being able to serve as a platform for manned and unmanned sensors and be able to beam the intelligence gathered back to the fleet.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/naval\/2017\/07\/21\/us-navy-boss-network-everything\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/networking_everything.JPG.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">U.S. Navy boss: Network everything<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">The U.S. Navy\u2019s top officer wants to expand the reach of each of his ships, and he\u2019s looking to networking to do it.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In an interview with Defense News, the chief of naval operations\u2019 Surface Warfare Directorate said part of that will be facilitated by using common systems already in wide use in the fleet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe\u2019ve got to make sure that these ships can fit into a future distributed maritime operations and be a contributor to that wider network of systems,\u201d the U.S. Navy\u2019s surface warfare director, Rear Adm. Ronald Boxall, said in a Defense News interview July 10. \u201cAnd to do that, you need some commonalities. There is a big move afoot to get more common systems and to think about these things on the front end.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That might mean installing systems such as the Aegis Combat System used on cruisers and destroyers, which would be a first for U.S. Navy frigates. The U.S. Navy is also looking to use engineering plants already in wide use.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What the U.S. Navy has said it wants the industry to tell it is where to make trades on existing designs to get the most capability for the best price,<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWhat I\u2019m telling you and what we put in here is what we would like the ship to do,\u201d Boxall said. \u201cIf changing the plant design is going to cause a radical departure, but you can do everything else, OK, lets talk about that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Responses to the U.S. Navy\u2019s RFI are due August 24 at 3 p.m. EST, according to Navy documents.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Analysts question whether the Navy actually knows what it wants from its littoral combat ship replacement.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":71319,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_yoast_wpseo_meta-robots-noindex":"","_yoast_wpseo_meta-robots-nofollow":"","_yoast_wpseo_canonical":"","_acf":"","_yoast_wpseo_primary_category":16,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","_smg_distribution_targets":[]},"categories":[160,16,36],"tags":[],"coauthors":[3361],"class_list":["post-44663","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-daily-news-roundup","category-naval","category-newsletters"],"acf":{"subheadline":"Analysts question whether the U.S. Navy actually knows what it wants from its littoral combat ship replacement.","legacy_arc_id":"KMDAICD4FJGJZKW3XJVJ4XWQ7U","arc_canonical_url":"\/naval\/2017\/07\/28\/experts-question-the-navys-ideas-for-a-new-frigate\/","remove_feature_photo":false,"is_sponsored":false,"subtype":"","redirect_url":"","disable_inline_ads":false,"native_logo_pretext":"Presented By:"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v26.0 (Yoast SEO v28.1) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Experts question the US Navy\u2019s ideas for a new frigate - Defense News<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Analysts question whether the Navy actually knows what it wants from its littoral combat ship replacement.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/naval\/2017\/07\/28\/experts-question-the-navys-ideas-for-a-new-frigate\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Experts question the US Navy\u2019s ideas for a new frigate\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Analysts question whether the Navy actually knows what it wants from its littoral combat ship replacement.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/naval\/2017\/07\/28\/experts-question-the-navys-ideas-for-a-new-frigate\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Defense News\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2017-07-28T19:50:52+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2026-08-07T23:42:15+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"David B. 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