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Experts say that the new Virginia Payload Module will also be large enough to accommodate boost-glide hypersonic missiles like those the Navy is developing with the Army.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But the logic for the Virginia Payload Module has always been about replacing the Ohio-class guided missile submarines retiring in the 2020s. Because submarines have been the Navy\u2019s go-to asset to penetrate areas threated by Chinese and Russian surface-to-surface and anti-ship missiles, attack submarines loaded with strike missiles would have to be the ones to get close enough to be able to launch land-attack strikes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That model upends decades of the surface Navy\u2019s supremacy in the world of strike warfare from the sea, but experts are beginning to question the logic of giving the strike warfare mission to submariners in an era of great power competition. With Russia and, to an even greater extent, China investing heavily in anti-submarine technology, does it make sense to give a stealthy asset a mission that will blow its cover?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bryan Clark, a retired submariner and senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, wonders if the surface fleet is the best place inside the force to house the strike mission.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI think the requirement may be changing,\u201d he said in an Oct. 22 phone call with Defense News. \u201cOver the past 10 years there has been a real emphasis on the submarine as the one tool we have that may be able to get into contested areas \u2014 the East and South China seas, up in the north Atlantic, etc.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThat\u2019s changing now: These countries are investing in their own anti-submarine warfare systems. 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So the idea that our submarines are our go-to asset to gain access, that may not be true in the next few years as it was in the past 10, so there is a question as to whether we should be investing in submarines to maintain the undersea strike capacity.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>\u2018Increasingly vulnerable\u2019<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The issue is not just that submarines run the risk of being detected, which is an ever-present risk anytime a submarine leaves the pier, but that it won\u2019t be able to create the volume of fires that the surface fleet could, especially with new concepts in development such as a large unmanned surface vessel that could act as a kind of arsenal ship.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe surface fleet is likely going to be our best strike capacity asset in the next decade,\u201d Clark said. \u201cSubmarines are going to be increasingly vulnerable, so the question becomes: Do I want to take my [Virginia Payload Module]-equipped SSN, put it inside the South China Sea to launch strikes, get counter-detected and harassed for days afterward? I lose it from the fight for a long time just evading attacks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWhereas if you used unmanned surface vessel[s], those can launch just as many cruise missiles as a Virginia class, many times cheaper; they can rotate, get reloaded and just keep launching strikes at a much higher rate of fire as you would ever get out of the SSN force.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jerry Hendrix, a retired naval flight officer and analyst with The Telemus Group, agreed that the surface fleet is likely going to be the place to house a strike capability, especially in the era of mass hypersonic fires, because of the cost it would impose on the U.S. to try to match Chinese capabilities on subs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI think there is a powerful argument to distribute these weapons across the surface force,\u201d Hendrix said. \u201cIf you can create a strike weapon that allows the surface force to stand outside of DF-21 and DF-26 range and shoot three-pointers from outside, then yes. 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