{"id":62518,"date":"2022-09-06T16:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-09-06T16:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/uncategorized\/2022\/09\/06\/naval-research-boss-wants-experimentation-czar-powers\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T00:37:59","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T00:37:59","slug":"naval-research-boss-wants-experimentation-czar-powers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/defensenews\/naval\/2022\/09\/06\/naval-research-boss-wants-experimentation-czar-powers\/","title":{"rendered":"Naval research boss wants \u2018experimentation czar\u2019 powers"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

ARLINGTON, Va. \u2014 The chief of naval research is pushing for the creation of an \u201cexperimentation czar\u201d for the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps, a job meant to bring rapidly evolving technology to the fleet faster.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rear Adm. Lorin Selby said the change would amount to an additional responsibility for him, or his successor, as director of the Office of Naval Research. The idea is to expand funding and authorities of the office to catapult promising technologies across the so-called \u201cvalley of death,\u201d the time between development and actual procurement, he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Marine Corps already has something similar in its Marine Corps Warfighting Lab, whose director also serves as the vice chief of naval research. MCWL maintains a matrix of training events big and small, all of which can be used to experiment with new gear or concepts<\/a>. Lessons learned get rolled into later experimentation events and into rapid acquisitions efforts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Selby told Defense News in an interview that that model could work for the whole naval force \u2014 he\u2019d likely start with a more limited focus on U.S. 7th Fleet and III Marine Expeditionary Force in the Pacific, and he\u2019d expand once the model proves useful \u2014 but it would take some fundamental changes to how money can be spent within the Department of Defense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Selby said three things have to happen to bring disruptive technology into the fleet: ideation, incubation and scaling.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

His office and other organizations receive a steady flow of good ideas from within the military and from partners in academia and industry. On incubation, he said the Navy is good at experimenting but doesn\u2019t do it enough. \u201cThat\u2019s a result of resources: it\u2019s money and people,\u201d he said, and the Navy needs to invest to create \u201ca perpetual experimentation machine.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Once a good idea is identified and matured, scaling it up is what trips up the Navy. If the service finds a cheap uncrewed system and wants to buy 100 or 1,000 of them to scatter around the fleet, for example, there\u2019s no good way to make that happen quickly. The research community would have to find a program executive office to sponsor it, and the PEO would have to squeeze it into the budget planning process that may already be looking two fiscal years down the line. Then, once the money is available, the PEO would have to go through the acquisition process to award a contract, and the product may not finally deliver in numbers for three or four years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cWe\u2019ve got to figure that piece out, which means \u2026 flexible funding,\u201d Selby said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Chief of Naval Research Rear Adm. Lorin Selby discusses naval power during an Aug. 23, 2022, Special Topic Breakfast hosted by the Navy League of the United States. (Eric Anderson\/US Navy)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Rather than require two organizations to be on the same page from opposite sides of the valley of death, Selby prefers to talk about a \u201cbridge owner,\u201d which would be the new experimentation czar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThat person needs to have the contract shop, the finance shop, the legal shop, do all that stuff. And the good news is, I have all that. I just would need these additional authorities over additional monies\u201d for the prototyping and procurement efforts, Selby argued. He added that the program offices already have the money; he\u2019d just need to convince senior leadership to peel off a small portion of that money and give him control over it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The rear admiral, who has led the Office of Naval Research since May 2020, said he\u2019s having those conversations with top leaders now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cMany of the senior folks I\u2019ve talked to totally agree: yep, we need this experimentation machine. I\u2019ve had some conversations with folks connected to the Hill who said, these are exactly the ideas we\u2019re looking for,\u201d he said. But the federal budget process doesn\u2019t make flexible spending easy, requiring money in each \u201cprogram element\u201d line to be spent in just the right way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A Commission on Planning, Programming, Budgeting and Execution Reform, which was mandated by the fiscal 2022 National Defense Authorization Act and formed earlier this year, may tackle the restrictive nature of today\u2019s line-by-line budgeting and create some sort of flexible funding pot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Once that flexible spending account is created, it will need money to fill it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cThat\u2019s the challenge we have: No one really disagrees with the concept, other than where the bodies come from and how you pay for it.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Selby said he\u2019s currently talking to Navy leadership about how to find some money within the next one or two budget years, perhaps taking from other procurement programs that are facing delays and could have some dollars shaved off without further hurting them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Chief of Naval Research Rear Adm. Lorin Selby (left) greets Secretary of the Navy Carlos Del Toro (right) upon his arrival to the Office of Naval Research on April 28, 2022. (Michael Walls\/US Navy)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Ahead of getting the money side worked out, Selby is trying to demonstrate the process he would bring to this experimentation czar role.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

To that end, the Office of Naval Research is running what the Navy has dubbed the \u201cSCOUT\u201d experimentation effort that. In this first iteration, the project focuses on solving operational problems for U.S. Southern Command in narcotics interdiction. Selby said the SCOUT team went to Joint Interagency Task Force South headquarters in Key West, Fla., to learn more about the specifics of their challenges \u2014 how to conduct wide-area search, how to incorporate P-8A Poseidon aircraft into their processes, how to aggregate data. The team came back with four specific problems to tackle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Through a commercial solutions opening, more than 80 companies applied to participate in this SCOUT effort. Selby said ONR whittled through them and would put together a final set of potential solutions to demonstrate in the Southern Command area in February or March.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

He noted SCOUT is relying on a \u201cpick-up team\u201d of staff from ONR and warfare centers, and he said \u201cthat needs to be a permanent team\u201d if the model were to be scaled up for a Navy-wide experimentation czar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Selby said he feels strongly about creating a \u201cperpetual experimentation machine\u201d so the Navy can develop a strategic hedge: though the service needs to continue research and development in support of modernizing current ships, aircraft and weapons, the Navy also needs to seek disruptive technologies that would give it an entirely different way to fight a fight. He recalled the Navy\u2019s development of naval aviation and aircraft carriers in the 1920s, even despite fielding a fleet centered around battleships. When the Japanese neutralized the U.S. battleship fleet, the U.S. Navy was able to succeed in the war because it had naval aviation technology and concepts ready to quickly employ.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201cI\u2019m very clear: I\u2019m not trying to replace the big complex things because we still need them,\u201d he said. \u201cI\u2019m just concerned that, somewhere along the way here, somebody is going to figure out how to counter that \u2014 and I want to have a backup plan.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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