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WASHINGTON \u2014 When Gen. James McConville took over as Army chief of staff three years ago, he became responsible for overseeing the service\u2019s biggest modernization push in 40 years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Army quickly faced new challenges, from navigating a global pandemic to exiting Afghanistan to helping Ukraine fight a full-scale Russian invasion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

With one year left on the job, McConville is fighting to fix the Army\u2019s recruitment problem while trying to get 24 out of 35 new signature weapons systems into the hands of soldiers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Defense News sat down with the chief ahead of the Association of the U.S. Army\u2019s annual conference to discuss the state of the service, how world events are affecting the force and what he hopes to accomplish before he retires next summer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This interview was edited for length and clarity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

What are U.S. Army units seeking in Europe amid the war in Ukraine?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n

The first thing that we want to do is replenish all the ammunition and weapons systems that we\u2019ve [given to Ukraine], and we want to replenish with modernization. We\u2019ve provided M113 armored personnel carriers \u2014 we don\u2019t want to replace them. What we really want to do is take the Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle and replace the [M113s] if we can, and that\u2019s what we\u2019re working on with Congress. Some of the systems like the 155mm artillery we\u2019d want to replace with HIMARS<\/a> [the High Mobility Artillery Rocket System], and we are taking a look at that. As we come out of it, we don\u2019t want to buy new-old stuff; what we want to do is buy new-new things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s not just material solutions, it\u2019s also how we operate and reinforcing the idea that having a noncommissioned officer corps is extremely important. Logistics are extremely important if you\u2019re going to support an operation like this because the rates of utilization for ammunition, especially with artillery, is fairly high in large-scale combat operations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Army is soon releasing Field Manual 3.0, the Army\u2019s new doctrine that lays out multidomain operations. Does the service have the capability and resources to train soldiers on it right now?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n

We\u2019re moving in that direction. We\u2019ve had multidomain operations as a concept, so now it\u2019s time to get [it] into doctrine that soldiers can actually use and leaders can basically practice and train. Deliberate practice gets us to where we need to do it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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A Stinger missile is launched using a man-portable air defense system during a live-fire training exercise as part of the Rim of the Pacific exercise in 2018. ( photo by Capt. Rachael Jeffcoat\/U.S. Army)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

It\u2019s really at a good time because we\u2019re at an inflection point. When we came out of Vietnam, we looked at 1973, we got some insights and put [the] AirLand Battle [doctrine] together. That\u2019s where the \u201cBig Five\u201d [weapons systems] came [from]. We developed organizations, and then we progressed incrementally over that. But now we\u2019re sitting here and we\u2019re going: \u201cOK, we came out of Afghanistan, we\u2019re seeing what\u2019s going on with Ukraine, we\u2019re kind of confirming what we know.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

From an Army standpoint, we\u2019re not trying to fight the last fight better; it\u2019s about winning the next fight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Army still has many capabilities under development and not yet fielded in mass across the force to enable multidomain operations. Talk about the process of updating doctrine while bringing more capabilities into the force.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n

You\u2019ll see incremental improvements. We\u2019re almost resetting the Army around the concept of multidomain operations. Then what\u2019s going to happen is, as threats change, new equipment comes, and then we\u2019ll update our doctrine to reflect that, but it\u2019s a fundamental change in how we look at things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The notion that we\u2019re going to have to fight from fort to foxhole is very different than what we had to do. We have to be ready to deal with how it can be contested. It could be cyber, it could be space, all these types of things are going to make it much more difficult for us to move things and operate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In Afghanistan, we were stationary; we had grand command posts that we could operate out of. In the future, we don\u2019t see that. We\u2019re going to have to be small, we are going to have to be dispersed, we\u2019re going to have to move. That changes the dynamics of, first of all, the structure. It also changes how you operate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Units have to be able to take mission command because you don\u2019t have a lot of time. You may not be able to tell them: \u201cTurn left, turn right.\u201d You give them much more mission command-type orders: \u201cYou seize this objective.\u201d And they\u2019re going to have to go, and they may not be able to talk to you for a while because of things that are happening on the battlefield.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Army wants to shift attention Pacific operations. Is there a concerted pivot to the region?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n

As the National Defense Strategy says, China is the pacing challenge<\/a>. It\u2019s the No. 1 priority. And, quite frankly, for the Army, when you look at what type of forces we have, we are committed in the Pacific. What you\u2019re seeing is new organizations. We\u2019ve got the security force assistance brigades. We\u2019re trying to work with allies and partners.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But more importantly, take a look at how the theater is set in Europe. And we are having the same discussions in the Pacific as well. How do you get there? Where do you want to have pre-positioned stocks? We do have pre-positioned stocks in the Pacific, but not at the same level; we do have logistics, we have a lot of the same type of things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

How do you account for a precipitous drop in confidence in military institutions and declines in recruiting?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n

My focus is on what we can do in the Army to get after this. What we\u2019ve been told, and it\u2019s playing out, is young men and women are having challenges passing the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery test, which is basically meeting the academic requirements to come into the Army. It determines, just like the SAT determines what colleges you get into, whether you get in the Army and then, once you get in the Army, what you can do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

It used to be that about two-thirds who came into the recruiting station would pass the ASVAB. Now it\u2019s a third. And then the same thing in the physical fitness test.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The secretary and I made a pledge: We\u2019re not going to lower standards. Quality is more important than quantity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

We stood up a future soldier prep course at Fort Jackson, South Carolina. We\u2019re getting good results. We\u2019re seeing scores increase; 75% of the kids that went there, their scores have gotten up so they get in.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The other thing I was most impressed with is the young men and women that have gone through the four or five or six weeks of this course. If they successfully complete it, we\u2019re letting them go right into initial military training, and we\u2019re finding they\u2019re actually ahead of the other kids coming in.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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