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The aircraft would need to be fully operational by 2040, according to the Canadian government\u2019s request.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bombardier of Dorval, Quebec, as well as General Dynamics Mission Systems-Canada of Ottawa, Ontario, proposed a Global 6500 special-mission aircraft.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But in their letter to Duclos, the two executives noted government procurement officials on Oct. 17 told lawmakers the request had the \u201challmarks of deliberate activity to orchestrate a particular outcome.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWorse, their testimony also revealed that requirements were withheld from Canadian industry, thus providing an advantage to an American company and seemingly resulting in a biased outcome,\u201d the letter added, citing testimony before a House of Commons defense panel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Procurement officials acknowledged to the panel they never sought input from Canadian firms or examined aircraft other than the P-8.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt is inexplicable how Canadian government officials can conclude there is no Canadian solution [to meet aircraft requirements] when they have not had a single aerospace expert meet with Canadian industry to review the detailed engineering behind Canadian industry alternatives,\u201d Martel and Houde wrote.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Duclos\u2019 office didn\u2019t respond to the specific issues raised in the letter but noted a final decision on a new surveillance aircraft has not yet been made. That decision \u201cwill be based on the capability offered, availability, pricing and benefits to Canadian industry,\u201d&nbsp;according to a statement from the minister\u2019s office.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Boeing, which declined to comment, has conducted a public relations campaign to support the proposed P-8 deal, noting it has more than 550 Canadian suppliers across Canada, with 81 directly contributing to the P-8 program.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Political intervention<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Canadian military originally planned to launch a competition in 2024 to replace the Royal Canadian Air Force\u2019s CP-140 Aurora fleet. The deadline to submit bids was set for 2027.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Apart from Boeing\u2019s P-8 and Bombardier\u2019s Global 6500, Japanese firm Kawasaki pitched its P-1 aircraft.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But in a surprise move in March, Canada requested pricing from the U.S. government for a fleet of P-8 Poseidons. 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They also called on Trudeau and other ministers in the ruling Liberal government \u201cto stand up for the Ontario and Quebec aerospace and defence sectors and allow our firms to compete in an open CMMA tender.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ontario has the largest economy in Canada, followed by Quebec. The latter is the largest of Canada\u2019s 10 provinces in area and is second only to Ontario in population.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt\u2019s an important contract, and we can understand the U.S. government must put a lot of pressure on the Canadian government. But we have a Canadian company, Bombardier, having plants in Ontario and Quebec that can supply what is needed,\u201d Legault told reporters July 10 in Winnipeg, where he was meeting with other premiers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Industry sources anticipate the Canadian government will to review and approve the purchase of the P-8 in November. 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