{"id":13242,"date":"2016-06-16T16:56:16","date_gmt":"2016-06-16T16:56:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/federaltimes\/uncategorized\/2016\/06\/16\/unlocktalent-gov-architect-on-engaging-the-workforce-with-data\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T04:35:45","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T04:35:45","slug":"unlocktalent-gov-architect-on-engaging-the-workforce-with-data","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/federaltimes\/enterprise-view\/2016\/06\/16\/unlocktalent-gov-architect-on-engaging-the-workforce-with-data\/","title":{"rendered":"Unlocktalent.gov architect on engaging the workforce with data"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Kimya Lee has a thing for data\u00a0\u2014\u00a0or at least its potential. As the Office of Personnel Management&#8217;s senior adviser on research and evaluation, Lee has been the face of the agency&#8217;s efforts to use big data to understand the federal workforce.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Her work on the analytics website, Unlocktalent.gov, has been cited for its effective use and presentation of Federal Employee Viewpoint Survey data to give agency managers a better insight into the health and engagement of their agencies.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Now a finalist for the Partnership for Public Service&#8217;s Samuel J. Heyman Service to America Medals, Lee sat down with <strong>Senior Reporter Carten Cordell<\/strong> to talk about what Unlocktalent.gov has achieved and what her future plans for it are. <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><span class=\"rte rte-comment\">Talking about where the site is moving now, n<\/span>Since you have expanded <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">it <\/span>the site to Senior Executive Service users, how are you moving forward with it this year?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So just at the end of 2014, we moved it to all SES, right. And so it was just over 7,000 users. And then a few months later, the decision was made that this is a tool that should be used for management but also for transparency. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">Because as we built trust, you know, I always think about trust, it&#8217;s like transparency plus time equals trust. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"rte rte-comment\">And so w<\/span>We have our employees take<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">n<\/span> a survey each year and some agencies provide them with the results and other agencies may not. So we wanted a way for employees who are providing their voice to see what&#8217;s going on in their agency. And so in 2015, we opened up the site. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">So t<\/span>There is a two-tier [site] right now. The first tier is a public site where you can go, the general public can look at some overall numbers for an\u00a0agency, but also what I like about that is you can also look at the trends. Because one data point for one year tells you very little. You can show that you know 64 percent of our employees are engaged, taking that out of context, that doesn&#8217;t tell you too much. But if you see that over the last five years, this being an increase, then you know if we&#8217;re going in the\u00a0right direction versus if it\u2019s decreasing \u2014\u00a0then you know we have some stuff to look at.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>So what features does the site offer its users right now?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So in 2015, we opened it up to the public, but we went one step further. As a federal employee, you can go and register, put in your information with your government email address, and we give you access to your agency results, and this is part of that transparency. Your agency results are not just, &#8216;Since I work in [Transportation Security Administration], I&#8217;m only going to see TSA results.&#8217; No. What we want to do is to get the conversation started. So as a [Department of Homeland Security] employee, you put in your email address and you get the DHS, but also all of the components under DHS. That helps with that transparency.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also, when you log in as an\u00a0employee or a senior leader, when you get to that first page, there&#8217;s a map. The map isn&#8217;t just about survey data. This is about administrative data. So there&#8217;s a map, I can go in and I can see my workforce. What that shows is you can see workforce across the country, but you can look at retirement eligibility. What percentage of my workforce is retirement eligible? One agency I looked at, it said 10 percent of their workforce \u2014\u00a0almost 40,000 \u2014\u00a0was retirement eligible. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">You can make a decision on that, but when you click onto one of the states, I believe it was Florida, 17 percent of their workforce in Florida is retirement eligible. You know what they&#8217;re going to do about that is different than what they would do if only 10 percent of their workforce was retirement eligible. So those are the things that currently as a federal employee you can go in and you take can take a look at for your agency as well as for the government.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another piece I think that&#8217;s really, really important is that when we talk about employee engagement, when we talk with the agencies, engagement is local. I want to know what&#8217;s going on in my office or in my component\u00a0because that&#8217;s what matters to me\u00a0because I can see myself in that data. And you can go on and you can say, \u2018Hey, based off of the information I can go down to this level and I can see the overall engagement scores, but is that enough information?&#8217; I want to look at it by different demographics. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">I want to look at it as m<\/span>My favorite one is when you look at individuals who say they are going to leave the government and you look at their engagement scores.<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">\u2019<\/span><span class=\"rte rte-comment\">So<\/span><span class=\"rte rte-comment\"> i<\/span>Individuals who said they&#8217;re going to stay within their agency, their engagement scores are higher. Individuals who said they&#8217;re going to possibly leave their agency but go to another agency, their engagement scores are a little lower. But when individuals say, \u2018I am leaving the federal government,\u2019 they have the lowest engagement scores and that&#8217;s information we can use.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>What have you heard from agencies in terms of feedback? Features that they like or would like to see on the website?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"rte rte-comment\">So just on two different fronts. <\/span>Usually, we hear that employees are very grateful and they appreciate the idea of trying to get the data out to them. We say that your voice matters and we have to really show it. And for agencies, they like the idea that it\u2019s simple and sometimes that&#8217;s hard because we&#8217;re dealing with really, really complex issues. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">A simple clean website where they can go and find the information. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What we do \u2014 actually, we&#8217;re about to do this right now \u2014 we put out a call to agencies and we say, \u2018You know, we&#8217;re going to do some focus groups on our website.&#8217; We want people to tell us what\u2019s working and what\u2019s not working and what they would like to see [and] any challenges they have been having. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">One of the important questions we ask is in order for this website to be successful or if we are going to think about this website and if it didn&#8217;t have which feature would it mean that if failed?\u2019 Because if I say, \u2018What features would you like to have,\u2019 people would like to have lots of different features. But if you get down to the bottom like what would be a failure, they would say at a minimum, we need this and that&#8217;s how we prioritize all of this. \u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The field of data analytics, at least its application to government, still feels very new. Does the adoption of this tool by the managers feel at times like a new toy for them?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With any new tool, they have to see the value immediately. And they have to understand that it&#8217;s not going to go away. But also, you know, from OPM&#8217;s standpoint, we have to continue to push the envelope a little bit because we want people to keep coming back. We wanted it to be as useful as possible. I&#8217;m not saying the website can be all things for everyone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think about it like a GPS, right. The GPS can get you on a highway, [but] it&#8217;s your decision of what lane to take. For some agencies with a more mature model, they&#8217;ve been looking at this for a long time and maybe they&#8217;re in a fast lane. They see the results. They know what to do and they&#8217;re going for it. For other agencies, they&#8217;re still learning about this and so they are in another lane. The website will not give you every answer. It will helpfully point you in a direction where you can focus on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><span class=\"rte rte-comment\">So I guess you are excited about w<\/span>What are you working on this year?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"rte rte-comment\">I am. So I said that right now we have two tiers. <\/span>We&#8217;re going to work on a third tier. There&#8217;s this fine line between putting out useful data and protecting the confidentiality of individuals who are taking a survey. And still a lot of times we hear, \u2018Just release everything,\u2019 but that&#8217;s not very responsible. We wouldn&#8217;t be responsible with the data if we just released everything as well as if we just put everything out there, the website will be a mish-mash of lots of different information not very useful at all. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">So w<\/span>We have to be very cognizant of what we&#8217;re doing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So with this next tier, we&#8217;re calling it, &#8220;The Executive Tier.&#8221; So they&#8217;ll be able to go down a little further in their agency as well as different cuts of the data. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">So we&#8217;re working on that. <\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I mentioned the map. As an employee I can go into the map, [but] we want to show that to the public as well. 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