{"id":19548,"date":"2015-03-16T19:02:35","date_gmt":"2015-03-16T19:02:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/federaltimes\/uncategorized\/2015\/03\/16\/nasa-presents-a-flagship-example-of-public-cloud\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T04:52:20","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T04:52:20","slug":"nasa-presents-a-flagship-example-of-public-cloud","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/federaltimes\/smr\/public-cloud\/2015\/03\/16\/nasa-presents-a-flagship-example-of-public-cloud\/","title":{"rendered":"NASA presents a &#8216;flagship&#8217; example of public cloud"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The space agency is currently using three different kinds of cloud environments: the private AWS GovCloud for protected data and information that falls under International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR); internal networks, which run in GovCloud or on hybrid virtual private clouds; and the AWS public cloud, which hosts the majority of the agency&#8217;s apps and web services.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Approximately 15 percent of NASA&#8217;s applications and websites are hosted in private clouds, with the rest in public or hybrid environments, according to Roopangi Kadakia, web services executive in NASA&#8217;s CIO Office.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>See More: <\/b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.federaltimes.com\/section\/public-cloud\/\" title=\"http:\/\/www.federaltimes.com\/section\/public-cloud\/\">Federal approaches to public cloud services<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;The entire NASA engineering network was moved over, which was a pretty big infrastructure, as well as tiny little applications,&#8221; she said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Since getting started in spring 2013, NASA has migrated almost 160 applications to the cloud \u2014 most of which are in a public or hybrid environment. 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NASA and integrators at InfoZen were able to do it in 13 weeks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;This is a flagship for the entire government,&#8221; said Raj Ananthanpillai, InfoZen chairman, president and CEO. &#8220;Every agency is calling them and then calling us, as well, saying, &#8216;Hey, how did you guys do these things.'&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"[ID=70287616]\" assetid=\"70287616\" assettype=\"pullquote\" src=\"\/Portals\/_default\/Skins\/PrestoLegacy\/CommonCss\/images\/pullquote.jpg\" title=\"Roopangi Kadakia, web services executive, NASA OCIO [ID=70287616]\" width=\"50px\"\/>Getting started<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">During the initial planning, NASA&#8217;s strategy was reminiscent of an adage made popular by Mahatma Gandhi: Live as if you were to die tomorrow; learn as if you were to live forever.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;In the cloud, you really have to strategically think about what your future needs are but you build for what you need right now,&#8221; Kadakia said, noting a primary benefit of cloud is the ability to adapt quickly to future needs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">She suggested agencies start by outlining their strategic goals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;What are the outcomes you&#8217;re really looking for? 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The idea of using non-dedicated infrastructure to host federal data was unsettling for some.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Other than the NASA Engineering Network that could potentially hold ITAR data, we felt very comfortable with our entire plan for protecting that data because of the way they had architected their system from the very beginning,&#8221; Kadakia said. &#8220;Others weren&#8217;t as confident.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">InfoZen was able to assuage some of those doubts by providing an added layer of monitoring.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Security &#8220;really has not been an issue for us other than getting past people&#8217;s own perception of how secure these infrastructures really are,&#8221; said Chet Hayes, InfoZen CTO. &#8220;In conjunction with the security Amazon provides, we actually provide continuous monitoring security-as-a-service as part of our offering for NASA.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This provides a &#8220;much more robust&#8221; security posture than NASA had previously, Hayes pointed out, as it layers InfoZen, Amazon and NASA&#8217;s internal security services.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>More to be done<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The next step for NASA is figuring out how to securely share appropriate (and only appropriate) information with non-credentialed contractors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;If I&#8217;m working with the University of Colorado building a portion of some system, how do I share that?&#8221; Kadakia said. 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