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Videos posted on social media showed the fighter flying into the bomber.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cOne of the things we would probably most likely be trying to determine is why those aircraft were co-altitude in the same air space at the same time,\u201d Michael Graham, a member of the National Transportation Safety Board, said at a news conference.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The crash came three years after the <a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/connecticut-hartford-accidents-transportation-8d48d898ee86ee0395c8895b3d91daf4\">crash of a bomber in Connecticut<\/a> that killed seven, and amid ongoing concern about the safety of air shows involving older warplanes. The company that owned the planes flying in the Wings Over Dallas show has had other crashes in its more than 60-year history.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The crash claimed six lives, Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/judgeclayj\/status\/1591780329278345222?s=46&#038;t=IJ1CrvPHkGyrXZH093DoWQ\">tweeted Sunday,<\/a> citing the county medical examiner. Authorities are continuing work to identify the victims, he said. Dallas Fire-Rescue said there were no reports of injuries on the ground.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Armin Mizani, the mayor of Keller, Texas, said Terry Barker, a retired pilot who lived in Keller, was in the B-17 bomber that crashed. Mizani said he learned of Barker\u2019s death from his family.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mizani said Barker\u2019s death has been difficult for his town of 50,000, where many of the residents know each other.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt\u2019s definitely a big loss in our community,\u201d he said. \u201cWe\u2019re grieving.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Barker was an Army veteran who flew helicopters during his military service. He later worked for American Airlines for 36 years before retiring in 2020, Mizani said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Maj. Curtis J. Rowe, a member of the Ohio Wing Civil Air Patrol, was a crew chief on the B-17, his brother-in-law Andy Keller told The Associated Press on Sunday. Rowe, of Hilliard, Ohio, did air shows several times a year because he fell in love with WWII aircraft, Keller said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Federal Aviation Administration also was going to investigate, officials said. The planes collided and crashed about 1:20 p.m., the FAA said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Graham said five people were in the B-17 Flying Fortress bomber and a pilot was the only person in the P-63 Kingcobra fighter plane. The aircraft are owned by Commemorative Air Force, the company that put on the air show. The aircraft are flown by highly trained volunteers, often retired pilots, said Hank Coates, president of Commemorative Air Force.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">John Cudahy is president of the International Council of Air Shows, a trade group that sets the standards air shows follow and oversees the training of pilots and \u201cair bosses,\u201d who serve as the flight controller for an event. Cudahy said that typically at air shows there is a Friday rehearsal where the pilots fly through the entire show to practice, so the Saturday show is actually the second time the pilots have flown the show. There are also detailed briefings each day to go over the plan for the air show and cover exactly where each pilot will be and their roles in the show.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt\u2019s still to early to figure out what happened yesterday. I\u2019ve watched the tape several times and I can\u2019t figure it out and I\u2019ve been doing this for 25 years,\u201d Cudahy said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Investigators will examine the wreckage from both aircraft, conduct interviews of crews present at the air show and obtain pilot training and aircraft maintenance records.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe\u2019ll look at everything that we can and we\u2019ll let the evidence basically lead us to the appropriate conclusions. At this point, we will not speculate\u201d on the cause, Graham said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A preliminary report from the NTSB is expected in four to six weeks, while a final report will take up to 18 months to complete.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Air shows must obtain special waivers from the FAA and all of the pilots have to demonstrate their skills in low flying and other maneuvers used in air shows, said John Cox, a former airline captain with more than 50 years\u2019 experience. Cox is also founder of Safety Operating Systems, a company that helps smaller airlines and corporate flight services from around the world with safety planning.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Each air show is overseen by an air boss, Cox said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIf there\u2019s any adjustments that have to be made, it\u2019s the air boss that makes those calls and the pilots comply with that,\u201d he said. In addition, any pilot with a mechanical problem would announce it to the air boss, he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Air shows typically rely on extremely detailed plans, including contingencies for emergencies, Cox said. For example, any pilot who ran into trouble could break out of formation and go to a designated area free of other planes that is identified by a landmark of some kind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The B-17, a cornerstone of U.S. air power during World War II, is an immense four-engine bomber used in daylight raids against Germany. The Kingcobra, a U.S. fighter plane, was used mostly by Soviet forces during the war. Most B-17s were scrapped at the end of World War II and only a handful remain today, largely featured at museums and air shows, according to Boeing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Commemorative Air Force has had previous crashes during its more than 60-year history, including a deadly 1995 crash near Odessa, Texas, involving a B-26 bomber that killed five crewmembers, according to an NTSB report. The plane crashed while practicing for an air show. The NTSB determined that the probable cause was the failure of the pilot to maintain minimum airspeed for flight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In 2001, two separate West Texas crashes involving planes owned by the group \u2014 one in April and one in May \u2014 killed three people. 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