{"id":9357,"date":"2018-09-27T16:27:44","date_gmt":"2018-09-27T16:27:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/federaltimes\/uncategorized\/2018\/09\/27\/behind-the-intelligence-communitys-second-epoch\/"},"modified":"2026-08-07T20:04:17","modified_gmt":"2026-08-07T20:04:17","slug":"behind-the-intelligence-communitys-second-epoch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/federaltimes\/management\/leadership\/2018\/09\/27\/behind-the-intelligence-communitys-second-epoch\/","title":{"rendered":"Behind the intelligence community\u2019s \u2018second epoch\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The intelligence community comprises 17 agencies spread across the government, and while their missions and areas of focus vary, there\u2019s a common thread: national security. In an era of rapidly evolving threats, mass quantities of data and an ever-growing need to share information, the ability to seamlessly exchange intelligence has never been more critical. That\u2019s the goal of the Intelligence Community Information Technology Enterprise, or IC ITE, which <a href=\"https:\/\/www.c4isrnet.com\/show-reporter\/dodiis\/2018\/08\/14\/the-second-generation-ic-ite-is-here\/\" target=_blank>continues to evolve<\/a> six years after its launch. Intelligence Community CIO John Sherman recently updated Federal Times editor Amber Corrin on IC ITE\u2019s progress, IC cloud efforts and how things are changing at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>You\u2019ve been in place as IC CIO for a year now. What progress have you made?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think one of the biggest things has been the re-vector of the common desktop environment [shared across the intelligence community]. That was a tough decision and I think that took the first four or so months of my tenure, working with our interagency partners.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That&#8217;s one of the hardest organizational things you could do sometimes, when you\u2019ve gotten down the road on something and say, \u201cNo, we need to turn the ship and go a different way,\u201d and go at it with a federated approach and with reference architectures as the guiding principle. I think that was a major accomplishment to turn the battleship and get us on a new [trajectory].<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I think as a corollary to that \u2014 not only for collaboration, which the desktop was meant to do \u2014 but also identity management data reference architectures. I\u2019ve reorganized [the office of] IC CIO. We stood up a new division called the Architecture and Integration Division. We brought a Ph.D. over from [the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency] who\u2019s a systems engineer and now working across the chief architects in the different agencies. We\u2019ve gotten feedback just in the past few weeks of how excited the architects are to be working in this sort of forum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A third area is the close partnership we have with the CIOs across the interagency within the IC. Within the agencies, this band of brothers and sisters, I have to say is one of the proudest things I\u2019ve been a part of here. It\u2019s the teaming among these CIOs and deputies CIOs and really spanning that out. The chief data officers are part of our kind of extended family. The chief information security officers are part of that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019m also pretty proud of how we&#8217;ve emphasized cybersecurity. Cybersecurity has always been a major focus area. With the support of [Principle Deputy Director of National Intelligence] Sue Gordon, [we\u2019re having] some really tough discussions at the senior-most levels and taking lessons learned that [the National Security Agency\u2019s] gone through post-Snowden. We\u2019re putting the emphasis that we need to on the really critical work of knowing your network, knowing what&#8217;s on there, patching \u2014 not making that optional. We\u2019re dedicating the resources and horsepower we need to get that done.<\/p>\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-smg-jwplayer-video\"><atype-video-jwplayer nostick=\"true\" playlisturl=\"https:\/\/cdn.jwplayer.com\/v2\/playlists\/fCzRqMW8?tags=e69a37d1-0d04-4e7b-8685-da8f277e10b2\" poster=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/video-poster-e69a37d1-0d04-4e7b-8685-da8f277e10b2.jpg\" aspectratio=\"16 \/ 9\" mute autostart=\"false\"><\/atype-video-jwplayer><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">John Sherman, CIO for Office of the Director of National Intelligence, talks about the Intelligence Community&#8217;s Information Technology Enterprise, or ICITE (pronounced &#8220;eyesight&#8221;).<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>What are some of the challenges you\u2019re facing as you enter what you\u2019ve called the \u201csecond epoch\u201d of IC ITE?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is the biggest job I\u2019ve ever had in terms of scope and responsibility. Bringing along 17 agencies in this coalition of very heavy-hitting agencies, military services [and] folks at the departmental level to do a common goal \u2014 it\u2019s both a challenge and one of the most invigorating things I\u2019ve had a chance to do. But to keep us all growing in the same direction and not having miscues \u2014 not by malice or angst or anything, but just because it\u2019s hard to keep a team running down the field in the same direction like this \u2014 that is a challenge.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are implementation challenges, taking things from the vision and idea perspective of, \u201cWe\u2019re going to leverage this new technology or this new managed service,\u201d and then getting it from a procurement to actual implementation. I come from really kind of a mission side of the house \u2014 analyst, collector, making sure that it works for those women and men who are the tip of the spear, whether they\u2019re an imagery analyst or a CIA case officer. This has all got to work for them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So sometimes not drinking our own Kool-Aid, but making sure we get honest-to-god feedback on how the capabilities are working and then making adjustments as necessary [is important].<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>You\u2019re a big proponent of incorporating more from the unclassified side of things, which is a big change in the highly classified world of intelligence. Can you talk more about that?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">My job before this was deputy of the Open Source Enterprise at the CIA, and I see the power of publicly available information, open source intelligence, or OSINT. I want to rationalize that part of the [security] fabric, too. I want to look at other shared services, as well of what we\u2019re going to do with our legacy infrastructure. Where can we do that more efficiently?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So that&#8217;s the fun part of the job: really looking where we\u2019re going to take things. What is the next thing we\u2019re going to bring on board here? That\u2019s kind of a phase we\u2019re in right now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>How much pushback are you getting on that? It\u2019s a significant shift.<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I\u2019ve got to tell you, the paradigm is shifting on this significantly. I was really impressed by [recent] comments from [Gen. Raymond Thomas, chief of Special Operations Command]. He\u2019s pushing his folks in [the Joint Intelligence Operations Center] to use 80 percent publicly available information and then 20 percent of the more exquisite, classified stuff. I\u2019ve heard that same ratio over the last few years among other all-source analysts at different agencies, that there\u2019s such a wealth of information that\u2019s publicly available. You just have to use certain trade craft and tools and technologies to get to it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There&#8217;s a lot of insight that can be provided to policymakers and war fighters. A lot of the data, we want to make it available to all the security fibers, but we don&#8217;t need to ship it up to the [top-secret side] all the time. Maybe it&#8217;s okay for a special forces team to have data on the unclassified side to share for partner training, or for first-responders or law enforcement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Cloud is a really hot topic right now, and we saw the IC take a lead on that \u2014 specifically, the CIA procuring an Amazon Web Services cloud solution with the C2S contract in 2013. Now we see the IC looking at different solutions. What\u2019s happening there?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We\u2019ve always been in a hybrid cloud situation in the IC. Also, we\u2019re moving to managed services \u2026 with Office 365, which rides on Microsoft Azure. That kind of got a little sideways in the media, like we procured a new cloud on Azure. Well, no. We are procuring a Microsoft service. A managed service. So we\u2019re leveraging cloud technology in that way, but our main elastic compute cloud is with C2S, which AWS provides. Then [we have] the IC GovCloud [which hosts collected and analyzed mission data and acts as \u201ca big data super jet engine\u201d]; we\u2019ve always been hybrid on that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And we\u2019ve gotten better with this: understanding which workloads go into which cloud, and so on. So that\u2019s always been our approach, and we\u2019re going to continue to leverage managed services. 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