{"id":24701,"date":"2021-10-28T22:48:59","date_gmt":"2021-10-28T22:48:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/uncategorized\/2021\/10\/28\/how-would-we-know-when-it-was-over-perspective-is-power-in-forever-wars\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T02:29:07","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T02:29:07","slug":"how-would-we-know-when-it-was-over-perspective-is-power-in-forever-wars","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/opinion\/commentary\/2021\/10\/28\/how-would-we-know-when-it-was-over-perspective-is-power-in-forever-wars\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018How would we know when it was over?\u2019 \u2013 Perspective is power in forever wars"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I sat with a retired Marine Corps major, Scott Huesing, who led Marines in combat in Ramadi and wrote the book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Echo-Ramadi-Firsthand-Marines-Deadliest\/dp\/1621577341\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cEcho in Ramadi\u201d<\/a> about it. The first chapter is about the loss of one of his Marines, and it ripped out my guts when I read it. For guys like us, war is personal, visceral, and dirty. We executed what the war career bureaucrats and military leadership sent us to do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After swapping war stories, something tugged at me. I had to ask.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cDid you ever know what \u2018success\u2019 in Iraq was?\u201d I asked. \u201cNot from the ground but from a strategic perspective. Did anyone ever tell you, \u2018Success is \u2026\u2019\u201d I raised my palms and shoulders like I was hoping he would lay the answer in my hands.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe knew what we wanted to accomplish in Ramadi,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cYes, but that was the execution,\u201d I countered. \u201cWhat was the mission? In World War II, it was to beat the Nazis and Germany. What was it in Iraq? I heard a lot of hyperbole like, \u2018build the government,\u2019 but I never heard how. Hell, I was there as an enlisted man, as a contractor, and as an officer.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/victory-arch-1.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-52634\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/victory-arch-1.jpg.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/victory-arch-1.jpg.jpg?resize=300,169 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/victory-arch-1.jpg.jpg?resize=768,432 768w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/victory-arch-1.jpg.jpg?resize=1024,576 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A rainbow hovers over the Victory Arch in Baghdad, which was created for Saddam Hussein after the Iran-Iraq War.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAside from knowing we had cleared Ramadi,\u201d he said, \u201cI don\u2019t think I ever heard what success in Iraq consisted of.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As two former military officers who have written books about their time in Iraq, neither of us could articulate what a successful completion of the mission would look like. Was there one? How would we know when it was over? It weighed on us for a few seconds until we snapped out of it and started eating our California rolls.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Since leaving the military, I\u2019ve searched my soul for answers. Was it worth the lives of Luke, Steve, and Faith? Did I spend three years of my life fighting a lost cause? Like all wars, the people who plan them and the ones who execute them are in different castes. I get to wrestle with PTSD and the loss of friends while the people who started the chaos cheer from the sidelines and critique. I think I know how Vietnam veterans feel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Career politicians and general officers \u201cfought\u201d in Iraq from the comfort of a palace or a nice condo in Washington. I see them opining on cable news. When battles are won, they take the credit, and when they don\u2019t, they deflect blame. As I wrestle with growing up in a combat zone, they armchair-quarterback from the comfort of their couch \u2014 angry their fantasy combat team is not winning them the game.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As I watch the Taliban retake territories we fought over for two decades, I\u2019m livid. Thirteen <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2021\/08\/27\/us\/kabul-attack-us-service-members-killed\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">service members lost<\/a> at Kabul\u2019s airport. The Taliban makes promises \u2014 \u201cWe\u2019ll secure the country\u201d \u2014 but Oct. 8, it\u2019s early days all over again: A <a href=\"https:\/\/www.reuters.com\/world\/asia-pacific\/blast-hits-mosque-northeastern-afghanistan-killing-worshippers-2021-10-08\/\" target=\"_blank\">suicide bomber executed himself<\/a> in a Shiite mosque, killing as many as 80, and there\u2019s the Islamic State to claim it. Sunni-on-Shiite violence. We could have left 10 years ago, saved a lot of lives and money, and gotten the same results. Paradoxically, we could stay 10 more years, losing more lives and cash, to get the same result. In summation: The mission is and was a political talking point agnostic to the sacrifices of the men and women who executed it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I shouldn\u2019t be shocked, because the same happened in Iraq, but it opens old wounds that I\u2019ve worked to heal: anger, frustration, and loss. I\u2019ve tried to find peace in the violence of my past. That peace turns to rage when I see a former flag officer or career diplomat paraded on television to give their assessment of why it\u2019s happening while promoting their new book on leadership. It\u2019s disgraceful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/blackhawk-greenzone-1.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-52631\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/blackhawk-greenzone-1.jpg.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/blackhawk-greenzone-1.jpg.jpg?resize=300,169 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/blackhawk-greenzone-1.jpg.jpg?resize=768,432 768w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/blackhawk-greenzone-1.jpg.jpg?resize=1024,576 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">A congressman Lerette\u2019s unit protected gets off a Blackhawk prior to his tour of the Green Zone.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I try to give them the benefit of the doubt. They didn\u2019t experience the war like I did. In 2004, I worked for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1734098333?pf_rd_r=SWZTK7C5DSZ9Q9M3N4PN&#038;pf_rd_p=edaba0ee-c2fe-4124-9f5d-b31d6b1bfbee\" target=\"_blank\">Blackwater<\/a> ferrying diplomats to random locations to \u201cbuild the government\u201d of Iraq. In 2004, I was driving a delegation of congressmen and their general officer sycophants around the Green Zone. We drove them to highly secured government buildings and then took them on a tour of the infamous <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2011\/02\/06\/world\/middleeast\/06iraq.html\" target=\"_blank\">Crossed Swords monument<\/a>. Unknown to them, we\u2019d cleared every location with a bomb dog, set security around the perimeters with snipers, and restricted all access to the area. The congressmen and generals marveled at the monument and took pictures like it was a sightseeing tour. They left before sunset because the rockets and mortar arrived shortly after the evening call to prayer each night. We wouldn\u2019t want them thinking this was an active war zone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With this security, how could they know a real war was happening? Within days of them leaving, they talked on television about the great progress of the war. At the same time, 2003\u2032s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.refworld.org\/docid\/469cd94f2.html\" target=\"_blank\">Coalition Provisional Authority Order Five<\/a> was allowing the new Iraq government to facilitate de-Ba\u2019athification using Shiite kill squads to slaughter Sunnis in Baghdad. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wearethemighty.com\/mighty-history\/this-is-the-real-iraq-war-battle\/\" target=\"_blank\">Sadr City erupted<\/a> with anti-occupation fighting targeting U.S. service members. That didn\u2019t stop <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/paul-bremer-former-iraq-czar-is-utterly-confused-how-he-became-an-internet-meme\" target=\"_blank\">Paul Bremer<\/a> from making his rounds on the news networks <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/news\/bremer-life-is-normal-in-iraq\/\" target=\"_blank\">declaring the fallacy of hope for Iraq<\/a> while my buddies Luke and Steve were shot down over Baghdad in April 2005.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I left Blackwater and joined the Army ROTC, where the five-paragraph operation order was drilled into us daily. Situation, mission, execution, sustainment, command, and control. As I commissioned as a fresh <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wearethemighty.com\/mighty-culture\/welcoming-new-butter-bar-lieutenant\/\" target=\"_blank\">butter bar<\/a>, I learned the Army revolved around the operations order. I quickly learned the Army was mission-centric and execution-lacking. I knew the mission in Iraq was to \u201cstabilize the government,\u201d but how were we supposed to execute it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I was at a small joint security station in northern Baghdad across from Sadr City. Executing our mission consisted of collecting intel no one would use as we surreptitiously exited Iraq. We lived a quaint life in a no-salute zone supporting an infantry company. I woke to an email from my commanding officer stating we needed to do mandatory training on bicycle safety. Someone on a large base was hit by a vehicle while riding a bike. It was the fault of the bicyclist because they were not wearing a reflective belt. The commander of Iraq, wanting to ensure this snafu wouldn\u2019t hinder his career progression, mandated every soldier in theater take online bicycle training. I called my commanding officer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSir, our internet connection sucks and we don\u2019t have bikes. Do we really need to complete this training?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI know,\u201d he said. \u201cI know. You\u2019re my third call today. I get it, but this came down from I Corps and to the brigade.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We both sounded dejected because he knew I would have to relay the same stupid order he gave me to my soldiers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThis is what generals worry about?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cJust make it happen, LT.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As my soldiers and I clicked through the training, constantly refreshing the screen due to the terrible internet connection, I wondered how this fit into executing the \u201cmission.\u201d I didn\u2019t have to ponder long because one of the soldiers in my battalion was killed by a rocket on a base south of Baghdad. One of my soldiers was close to the deceased, and I had to break the news to her. No training could\u2019ve prepared me for this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/morgan-lerette-1.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-52641\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/morgan-lerette-1.jpg.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/morgan-lerette-1.jpg.jpg?resize=300,169 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/morgan-lerette-1.jpg.jpg?resize=768,432 768w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/morgan-lerette-1.jpg.jpg?resize=1024,576 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Morgan Lerette holds a puppy after giving it its first bath in Iraq.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Prior to our nightly meeting, I asked to speak with her. We sat on a wooden step. I took my hat off and held it as I looked at her and told her about the death of her friend, her sister-in-arms. She began to cry. I put my arm over her shoulder and tried to console her. She leaned into me and I felt the tears push through my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.military.com\/equipment\/army-combat-uniform-acu\" target=\"_blank\">ACU<\/a>s as I told her we were making arrangements for her to attend the funeral at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2015\/10\/30\/world\/iraq-camp-liberty-opposition-attack\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">Camp Liberty<\/a> in 48 hours.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I would have cried myself if I didn\u2019t have to inform the rest of my team. I let her know we were on a communications blackout so she couldn\u2019t call or post about it until we had confirmation the family was alerted. I asked her to skip the meeting and told her I\u2019d check on her soon. She stood and walked toward her room as tears streamed down her cheeks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I entered the office and told the team. Anyone who wanted to attend the memorial was welcome, but no one was to use the phone or internet until we received word the family had been contacted. This was nonnegotiable because the family should never know about a death via Facebook. Some cried and others stared in stunned silence. For the first time, the burden of war became personal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Before they went to Camp Liberty for the memorial, I briefed them on the rules: They were entering a salute area, had to wear reflective belts at all times, had to be clean prior to entering the chow hall, and the military police would pull them over if officers caught them speeding. This was the dissonance of war \u2014 an obsession to mandate inane rules for officer evaluation reports to justify handing out Bronze Star Medals to officers even as others were mourning the loss of a friend.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By now Gen. Petraeus was on the news talking about how to win an insurgency, which led to the surge in Afghanistan. Robert Gates was starting to write a book applauding himself for his work as secretary of defense. Six months after it published, Mosul, Iraq was taken over by ISIS.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">History is repeating itself in Afghanistan, and Gen. Petraeus is again making the rounds on cable news explaining <a href=\"https:\/\/www.politico.com\/news\/2021\/07\/18\/petraeus-afghanistan-taliban-withdrawal-499986\" target=\"_blank\">it\u2019s a mistake to leave Afghanistan<\/a> even if the war has no definitive mission or execution. For a former general, the only answer is \u201cmore war.\u201d Combat\u2019s not personal to career bureaucrats and generals; it\u2019s the circle of life. Hakuna Matata.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Maybe I\u2019m bitter? Bitter I lost friends to wars we didn\u2019t win \u2014 couldn\u2019t win. I\u2019m bitter watching Afghanistan crumble because it reminds me of Iraq. I try not to think about it because there\u2019s only so much soul-searching a person can do with a ground perspective of the wars. Maybe, just maybe, a flag officer or career diplomat will read this and do a bit of soul searching. How they failed at defining success. How they failed at winning wars. How they failed their junior enlisted and officers tasked with executing their trivial policies. I doubt it. They seem busy making their rounds on cable news.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/thewarhorse.org\/author\/morgan-lerette\/\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Morgan Lerette<\/i><\/a><i> worked for Blackwater for 18 months, from 2004 to 2005. Upon his return to the United States, he completed his undergraduate degree at Northern Arizona University and commissioned as a U.S. Army intelligence officer. From 2009 to 2010, Lerette deployed back to Iraq. He left the Army as a captain, moved to Boston, and attended The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University. He received a master of international business degree in international banking and finance. Lerette wrote the just-released book \u201c<\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1734098333?pf_rd_r=SWZTK7C5DSZ9Q9M3N4PN&#038;pf_rd_p=edaba0ee-c2fe-4124-9f5d-b31d6b1bfbee\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Welcome to Blackwater: Mercenaries, Money and Mayhem in Iraq<\/i><\/a><i>.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i>Editor\u2019s note: This piece was first published in <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/thewarhorse.org\/generals-won-wars-on-tv-while-failing-in-afghanistan-iraq\/\" target=\"_blank\"><i>The War Horse<\/i><\/a><i>. This is an Op-Ed and as such, the opinions expressed are those of the author. If you would like to respond, or have an editorial of your own you would like to submit, please contact Military Times managing editor Howard Altman, <\/i><a href=\"mailto:haltman@militarytimes.com\"><i>haltman@militarytimes.com<\/i><\/a><i>.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>History is repeating itself in 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