{"id":31682,"date":"2023-02-08T19:26:44","date_gmt":"2023-02-08T19:26:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/uncategorized\/2023\/02\/08\/corps-dramatic-changes-require-discourse-not-information-operations\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T20:50:11","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T20:50:11","slug":"corps-dramatic-changes-require-discourse-not-information-operations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/opinion\/2023\/02\/08\/corps-dramatic-changes-require-discourse-not-information-operations\/","title":{"rendered":"Corps\u2019 dramatic changes require discourse, not information operations"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In February 2003, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/breaking-news\/2021\/10\/18\/colin-powell-84-dies-of-covid-19-complications-family\/\" target=\"_blank\">Secretary of State Colin Powell <\/a>gave an impassioned United Nations speech outlining the evidence of Iraq\u2019s development and possession of chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The storm clouds of war were gathering. Also that month, all <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marinecorpstimes.com\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2022\/11\/29\/heres-the-new-marine-corps-strategy-for-training-future-troops\/\" target=\"_blank\">Marine Corps Training and Education Command<\/a> officers were assembled in the Quantico, Virginia, \u00adtheater. As a young captain, we were there to listen to a different speech, one by a \u00adrecently retired general we \u00adrevered.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Gen. Tony Zinni said he initially had planned to talk about leadership training and education. But upon further consideration, he decided to refocus his remarks to \u201cThe duty of a retired general.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He proceeded to outline his growing alarm at the haste that the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marinecorpstimes.com\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2019\/11\/28\/the-second-battle-of-fallujah-15-years-later\/\" target=\"_blank\">U.S. was \u00adrushing to war with Iraq.<\/a> He first \u00adexpressed concerns about Powell\u2019s evidence of weapons of mass destruction. He spelled out the problems with Central Command\u2019s planning efforts that had produced an invasion plan with too few ground force formations. He then forecast a lengthy stability operation that would result in years of wasted U.S. time, treasure and lives.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We were nonplussed. Some agreed with his assessment. We also knew that as \u00adCentral Command\u2019s most recent former commander, Zinni possessed the experience and credibility to make the assertions he did. To be fair, however, we were young officers stuck in training and Quantico assignments, angry that we were missing the chance to march into Iraq. We also were active-duty Marines, obligated to follow the \u00adorders of our commander-in-chief.  We were not disposed to publicly agree with Zinni\u2019s cautions about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/your-military\/2018\/03\/20\/us-forces-are-needed-here-after-15-years-fight-in-iraq-not-over\/\" target=\"_blank\">Operation Iraqi Freedom.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We all eventually got our wish and joined the war we thought we were going to miss. We learned over the next 20 years, in both Iraq and Afghanistan, that the retired general was right: Poor operational and strategic decisions made in haste and hubris always created tactical problems for us to solve.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/opinion\/2022\/07\/18\/the-problem-with-retaining-only-5-or-possibly-7-cannon-artillery-batteries-in-the-active-marine-corps-structure\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/190827-M-SK440-003.JPG.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">The problem with retaining only 5 (or possibly 7) active Marine Corps cannon artillery batteries<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">Most Marines in combat will soon be fighting &quot;without close, continuous and accurate fire support,&quot; this retired Marine argues.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As in 2003, we are at a critical time. \u00adToday there are substantive questions about the Corps\u2019 wholesale redesign and restructuring. We are hearing from many retired generals that Force Design 2030 is an existential threat to the Corps\u2019 future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These retired generals quietly approached Marine senior leaders for nearly two years but felt ignored. Now that they have reluctantly made their concerns public, we are witnessing an institutional information campaign that aggressively dismisses and condemns their concerns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Like 2003, the past three years increasingly stink of the \u201cwe know better\u201d hubris that marked the U.S.\u2019 information campaign preceding the Iraq invasion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The redesign of our Corps, we are told, is irrevocable. But questions continue to plague any critically thinking Marine.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Most of the time, the answers to the questions include unvalidated assumptions, contain promises of fantastical equipment capabilities, and repeat the vague insistence that \u201cthe character of war is changing, and we must adapt.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Like Powell\u2019s 2003 speech, the evidence to support these answers grows increasingly thin. The louder the professional messaging and narrative of the institution\u2019s information campaign becomes, the more the audience wonders if the retired generals might be right again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><b>Can\u2019t ignore the questions<\/b><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Has the Corps\u2019 redesign been discussed, debated and tested?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While Marine Corps Maneuver Warfare doctrine officially was introduced in 1987 and codified in 1989, the capstone doctrinal publication \u00adFMFM-1 only was published after live testing and \u00addebate had been exhausted. This discussion and debate had begun in the early \u201870s and had been the subject of operational units\u2019 after-action reviews at every level from the platoon upward. Platoon commanders from the 2nd Marine Division in the late \u201870s still tell stories of unforgiving after-action review sessions after force-on-force exercises.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The \u00adrestructuring\u2019s implementation has proceeded at a breakneck pace. The initial planning effort concluded quickly, and deep structural changes eliminating major organic combat power and support were ordered within months. Some war games only came after the old force structure was gutted, and no early war games or exercises included operational units field testing the concepts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nondisclosure agreements prevented most units from learning details, and stifled debate on the wisdom of the premise that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marinecorpstimes.com\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2023\/01\/04\/new-in-2023-force-design-2030-update-coming-this-spring\/\" target=\"_blank\">Force Design 2030<\/a> is the Corps\u2019 only way forward in the age of precision munitions.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/opinion\/commentary\/2022\/08\/14\/heres-how-the-marine-corps-should-have-approached-stand-in-forces\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/7352201.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Here\u2019s how the Marine Corps should have approached stand-in forces<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">Stand-in forces are being funded by gutting necessary combat capabilities, such as infantry, aviation, armor and artillery, this retired Marine writes.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Assumptions plague every \u00adoperational discussion about<a href=\"https:\/\/www.marinecorpstimes.com\/opinion\/commentary\/2022\/08\/14\/heres-how-the-marine-corps-should-have-approached-stand-in-forces\/\" target=\"_blank\"> stand-in forces and its ability to survive in austere environments<\/a> \u2015 \u00adassumptions that we must believe will be verified in the future. In most planning sessions and exercises, these \u00adassumptions mount, as do questions and doubt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Are \u201clow-observable\u201d stand-in forces realistic? As tactical planners test the concepts of introducing missile platforms, \u00adMarines and logistics into an austere base on a foreign-owned island, their understanding of the nature of war creates a list of questions that cannot be ignored. Recall infantry companies or special operations firm-bases in Iraq or Afghanistan as examples of the \u00adinevitable mission-creep that will occur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Local curiosity will turn into human \u00adintelligence collection, which will turn into targeting vulnerability. Logistics requirements will demand much more than locally procured rice for chow. Within hours or days, the force protection requirements will grow quickly. The \u201clow-observable\u201d base will soon be surrounded by jersey barriers and Marines will be driving armored convoys to bring water and fuel from the \u00adChina-owned port facility. Zinni called this the \u201cnaked and afraid\u201d strategy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The 2018 National Defense Strategy \u00addefines five significant threats, with the primary competitors being Russia and China, neither it nor any other congressional mandates are pushing the Corps to divest of significant combat power.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Are the Corps\u2019 sensing and fires in support of sea-denial integrated in operations plans? Is this relevant to the joint force? The Corps\u2019 restructuring is divesting \u00adorganic sensing and fires from infantry units. The promised future sensing and fires capabilities don\u2019t appear to increase ground forces\u2019 reach significantly enough to be of value to the Navy\u2019s regional mission, and the stand-in force mission doesn\u2019t appear to be on track to be integrated into current operations plans.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/opinion\/2022\/05\/10\/rather-than-wreck-it-the-commandants-vision-will-save-the-marine-corps-from-itself\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"178\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/7151255.jpg_f8510d.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Rather than wreck it, Berger\u2019s vision will save the Marine Corps from itself<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">The Marine commandant&#039;s opponents want &quot;the Corps to remain a slimmer, smaller version of the U.S. Army,&quot; this retired Army colonel writes.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Is our force-in-readiness mission preserved despite the elimination of combat power? The Corps will have at least a three-year trough of readiness in the coming years. If war or crisis come during this time, \u201cfirst to fight\u201d as a motto will be a hollow historical relic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What makes Marines the way they are? This is also the most alarming question, as the Corps\u2019 relevance is wholly dependent on the ethos of its individual \u00adMarines; what Victor Krulak described as \u201cunfailing alchemy\u201d in \u201cFirst to Fight.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Talent Management 2030 seeks to \u00addevelop an older force. Its premise is that our current manpower model is of the industrial age and incompatible with future war. Much data and analysis have been assembled that proponents use to insist the Corps\u2019 historical drive for fit, aggressive youth is misguided and out of sync.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Why, however, does our observation of the performance of companies and battalions in combat \u2014 especially relative to adjacent battlespace occupied by other services, with older troops \u2014 seem to counter the narrative that Marines are young and dumb? Why do Marines of any rank seem to be prized for their ability to adapt, improvise and overcome? Do changes in the character of war demand that we change the very foundational culture of our force ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These are some of the questions \u00adcritically thinking Marines ask quietly as they gather around conference tables and PowerPoint slides in operational units throughout the Corps.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If I were a retired general, I might pose a more pointed analogy. Did we burn our house down for the insurance \u00admoney? Are we living in our car, spending insurance money on gas while we have nowhere to live? I am not, however, a retired general. Me and other Marines have only heard their considered and intelligent arguments.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We have observed the Corps\u2019 pressure on the Marine Corps Gazette, followed by the pulling of these generals\u2019 articles from its pages, the shunning of their presence at the Marine Corps \u00adUniversity, and dismissal and mockery of their input from leadership.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This information campaign sounds a lot like 2003. And back then, Zinni had it right. Might today\u2019s retired generals also be right? \u25a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i>Col. Jeffrey Dinsmore is an active-duty Marine who has served under 11 commandants and at every echelon from the platoon to the division since enlisting in 1986.<\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><b>Have an opinion?<\/b><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i>This article is an op-ed and as such, the opinions expressed are those of the author. If you would like to respond, or have an editorial of your own you would like to submit, please <\/i><a href=\"mailto:ascott@militarytimes.com\"><i>email Marine Corps Times Editor Andrea Scott<\/i><\/a><i>.<\/i><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i>Want more perspectives like this sent straight to you? <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/link.militarytimes.com\/join\/5b9\/sign-up-opinion\"><i>Subscribe to get our Commentary &amp; Opinion newsletter<\/i><\/a><i> once a week.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;The redesign of the Corps, we are told, is irrevocable. 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