{"id":41695,"date":"2018-08-28T22:35:20","date_gmt":"2018-08-28T22:35:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/uncategorized\/2018\/08\/28\/the-armys-sub-gun-program-is-still-going-and-heres-one-of-the-submissions\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T03:53:14","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T03:53:14","slug":"the-armys-sub-gun-program-is-still-going-and-heres-one-of-the-submissions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/off-duty\/gearscout\/2018\/08\/28\/the-armys-sub-gun-program-is-still-going-and-heres-one-of-the-submissions\/","title":{"rendered":"The Army\u2019s sub gun program is still going, and here\u2019s one of the submissions"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure class=\"wp-block-smg-jwplayer-video\"><atype-video-jwplayer nostick=\"true\" playlisturl=\"https:\/\/cdn.jwplayer.com\/v2\/playlists\/fCzRqMW8?tags=fa6038d3-59e8-401b-9702-4b22108bb595\" poster=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/video-poster-fa6038d3-59e8-401b-9702-4b22108bb595.jpg\" aspectratio=\"16 \/ 9\" mute autostart=\"false\"><\/atype-video-jwplayer><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The U.S. Army could be buying submachine guns for conventional forces. Get a look at a couple of possibilities. (Jeff Martin\/Staff)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Army\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armytimes.com\/news\/your-army\/2018\/05\/09\/could-you-soon-carry-a-submachine-gun-on-mission-the-army-is-interested\/\" target=_blank>subcompact weapon<\/a> efforts are still alive, and one company\u2019s submission has already surfaced.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Back in May, the Army\u2019s Program Manager for Soldier Weapons, Individual Weapons asked industry to provide a fully automatic, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.armytimes.com\/news\/your-army\/2018\/06\/13\/one-of-these-10-subguns-could-be-the-next-soldier-personal-defense-weapon\/\" target=\"_blank\">9mm subcompact weapon<\/a> in a Request for Information. The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/your-military\/2017\/04\/18\/special-operations-command-is-looking-at-a-new-6-5-mm-round-for-its-sniper-rifle\/\" target=\"_blank\">weapon<\/a> would also need a Picatinny rail for mounting devices.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The program aimed to meet the needs of personal protection. At the time, 10 weapons were submitted for consideration. Competitors included Colt, Sig Sauer, Zenith Firearms and a smattering of other, smaller firearms manufacturers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The types of weapons ranged from combat M4-style carbines to updated versions of the venerable Heckler &amp; Koch MP5 sub gun.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/armytimes\/news\/your-army\/2018\/05\/08\/armys-next-squad-weapon-will-fire-a-never-before-seen-ammo-combination\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/ARM-saw-web.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Army\u2019s next squad weapon will fire a never-before-seen ammo combination<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">The Army\u2019s plan for a new squad automatic rifle will bring a type of ammunition combination, from bullet to casing, that\u2019s never seen the battlefield.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But that RFI was later canceled so that officials could modify the requirements.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The new notice, posted this summer, asked gun makers for a \u201chighly concealable SCW system capable of engaging threat personnel with a high volume of lethal force while accurately firing at close range with minimal collateral damage.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"440\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW4.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-84501\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW4.jpg.jpg 440w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW4.jpg.jpg?resize=150,150 150w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW4.jpg.jpg?resize=300,300 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 440px) 100vw, 440px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This is the Handl Defense submission for the Army&#8217;s latest efforts at finding a 9 mm sub compact weapon for personal defense. (soldiersystems.net)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To meet that need, RFI authors tailored the weapon requirements to be optimized to fire a 147-grain 9mm and include 20- and 30-round magazines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It must fire 60 rounds per minute for five minutes without a cookoff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"440\" height=\"440\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW3.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-84502\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW3.jpg.jpg 440w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW3.jpg.jpg?resize=150,150 150w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW3.jpg.jpg?resize=300,300 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 440px) 100vw, 440px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This is the Handl Defense submission for the Army&#8217;s latest efforts at finding a 9 mm sub compact weapon for personal defense. (soldiersystems.net)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Up to six companies will be able to submit their prototypes. If selected, the companies could be asked to manufacture up to 350 initially, and possibly as many as 1,000 of the sub guns, depending on Army requirements.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The military equipment-focused website <a href=\"http:\/\/soldiersystems.net\/2018\/08\/24\/sneak-peek-handl-defense-submission-for-us-army-sub-compact-weapon-oportunity\/\" target=_blank>solderysystems.net<\/a> recently posted photographs of one of the submissions, made by Handl Defense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"3024\" height=\"3024\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW2.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-84504\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW2.jpg.jpg 3024w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW2.jpg.jpg?resize=150,150 150w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW2.jpg.jpg?resize=300,300 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW2.jpg.jpg?resize=768,768 768w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW2.jpg.jpg?resize=1024,1024 1024w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW2.jpg.jpg?resize=1536,1536 1536w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Handl-SCW2.jpg.jpg?resize=2048,2048 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 3024px) 100vw, 3024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">This is the Handl Defense submission for the Army&#8217;s latest efforts at finding a 9 mm sub compact weapon for personal defense. (soldiersystems.net)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Handl Sub Compact Weapon measures less than 15 inches when folded, according to the site. It weighs less than 7 pounds and can fit in a briefcase.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The weapon could fire pistol magazines common to the Army\u2019s newest sidearm, the M17 pistol, part of the Modular Handgun System.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Up to six companies will be able to submit their own prototypes for a sub compact, fully auto 9mm gun.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":67010,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_yoast_wpseo_meta-robots-noindex":"","_yoast_wpseo_meta-robots-nofollow":"","_yoast_wpseo_canonical":"","_acf":"","_yoast_wpseo_primary_category":71,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","_smg_distribution_targets":[]},"categories":[71,13],"tags":[],"coauthors":[3396],"class_list":["post-41695","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-gearscout","category-off-duty"],"acf":{"subheadline":"","legacy_arc_id":"PDK73ID3D5E6BCRUMZVLBADIGA","arc_canonical_url":"\/news\/your-army\/2018\/08\/28\/the-armys-sub-gun-program-is-still-going-and-heres-one-of-the-submissions\/","remove_feature_photo":true,"is_sponsored":false,"subtype":"","redirect_url":"","disable_inline_ads":false,"native_logo_pretext":"Presented By:"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v26.0 (Yoast SEO v28.1) - 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