{"id":46745,"date":"2022-06-20T16:58:00","date_gmt":"2022-06-20T16:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/uncategorized\/2022\/06\/20\/marines-still-have-big-plans-for-seabasing-ships-as-2-head-for-mothballs\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T08:36:33","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T08:36:33","slug":"marines-still-have-big-plans-for-seabasing-ships-as-2-head-for-mothballs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2022\/06\/20\/marines-still-have-big-plans-for-seabasing-ships-as-2-head-for-mothballs\/","title":{"rendered":"Marines still have big plans for seabasing ships as 2 head for mothballs"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A sweeping slate of proposed ship retirements that would take nine littoral combat ships offline also would end the career of two unconventional seabasing vessels that have less than a decade in service.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marinecorpstimes.com\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2019\/10\/22\/how-many-marines-does-it-take-to-make-an-expeditionary-base\/\" target=\"_blank\">Marine Corps seabasing<\/a> is far from a failed concept, current and former Marine officials said, and similar ships remaining in service are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marinecorpstimes.com\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2022\/03\/02\/marine-corps-launches-new-littoral-unit-that-us-adversaries-reportedly-hate\/\" target=\"_blank\">poised to take on new missions<\/a> \u2015 including support of unmanned surface vessels \u2015 in the near future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The recently released fiscal 2023 defense budget proposal calls for the retirement of both the Navy\u2019s expeditionary transfer docks: the Montford Point and John Glenn. Initially called mobile landing platforms, these ships were based on civilian Alaska-class oil tankers and designed to fill a gap left by a scarcity of pricey amphibious warships.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With a flat, submersible center deck, the expeditionary transfer docks could stage and transfer Marine Corps equipment and launch it shoreward aboard landing craft air cushion hovercraft; the ships were sometimes called a pier at sea.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2019\/10\/22\/how-many-marines-does-it-take-to-make-an-expeditionary-base\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/11th-MEU-EAB.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">How many Marines does it take to make an expeditionary base?<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">This general is working on an answer.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At $500 million apiece, it was a cheap buy, but had significant limitations from the outset: they weren\u2019t cleared to conduct skin-to-skin moorings with military sealift vessels to transfer equipment in wave swells above three feet. And the payload, fuel capacity and accommodation space dramatically were reduced from original plans in order to cut costs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That made the expeditionary transfer docks more challenging to use and also more risky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Montford Point made a 2016 appearance at the South Korean maritime exercise Ssang Yong, but the ships have otherwise kept a low profile.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe are not fighting to keep the [ESDs],\u201d Shon Brodie, head of the Marine Corps\u2019 Maritime Expeditionary Warfare Division, told Marine Corps Times. \u201cAnd it\u2019s not because we don\u2019t see that they have value. It\u2019s just simply a list of prioritization \u2015 we want to make sure that we can maintain the number of L-class amphibious warfare ships we need.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But a seabasing sibling, the expeditionary mobile base, or ESB, has gotten a much better reception. Like the expeditionary transfer docks the expeditionary mobile base is based on a commercial tanker, but it\u2019s equipped with a helicopter hangar and support facilities and below-deck storage for noncombat missions such as humanitarian assistance and disaster relief. In 2017, the expeditionary mobile base Lewis B. Puller, the first purpose-built ship of the class, formally was commissioned into the Navy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Expeditionary mobile bases \u201chave proven that they have tremendous value,\u201d Brodie said. \u201cWe\u2019re able to put those ships into positions where we are not able to keep a Marine expeditionary unit or amphibious ready group all the time. So special operations forces love the ESB, and they just have tremendous utility as well.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Navy and Marines like to keep the Puller in the U.S. 5th Fleet, staging additional equipment and aviation \u2015 CH-53 Super Stallions or MV-22 Ospreys \u2015 in the Persian Gulf. Other expeditionary mobile base ships, Brodie said, have navigated around the continent of Africa, transited the Suez canal and done stints in the Mediterranean, where the Marine Corps has long wanted to keep a Marine expeditionary unit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In support of the Force Design 2030 concept, the expeditionary sea base is poised to pick up a new mission, Brodie said: escort ship for the Marines\u2019 future long range unmanned surface vessel. Set to be autonomous and optionally manned, the long range unmanned surface vessel will be used to launch loitering munitions, or kamikaze drones, at sea- and land-based targets. And, Brodie said, it will need a \u201ctender\u201d ship at times for monitoring and maintenance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe need to start thinking about the ESB as an unmanned systems tender, because these unmanned systems may have great range,\u201d Brodie said. \u201cIt would be good for us to have a sea base for unmanned systems, just like we have a sea base for manned systems.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Experimentation to that end is likely to begin in 2023, Brodie said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He acknowledged that taxpayers might find it \u201chard to swallow\u201d that the Navy was mothballing $1 billion worth of nearly new seabasing ships, but said the retiring expeditionary transfer docks had helped to prove the effectiveness of the seabasing concept and the value of a less-exquisite, cost-effective platform for certain amphibious operations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The concept, Brodie said, is key to the Marine Corps\u2019 future plans and strategy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI want a ship that helps me sustain the standing force,\u201d he said. \u201cAnd it has the ability to provide that sustainment, because it is a warehouse at sea.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Not everyone is convinced it\u2019s time for the expeditionary transfer docks to go, though.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jim Strock, a former director of the Marine Corps Seabasing Division and now an independent consultant on maritime issues, said the 200 foot to 400 foot light amphibious warships the Corps wants to help Marines move around the littorals could use a heavy-lift platform for transport.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe ESDs, with some modification to the ballast pumping systems, are easily repurposed as heavy-lift ships,\u201d Strock said. \u201cThey could pick up a [Navy destroyer] if you wanted to. 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