{"id":73951,"date":"2025-08-19T19:30:00","date_gmt":"2025-08-19T19:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/uncategorized\/2025\/08\/19\/veterans-voices-shape-report-on-the-afghanistan-wars-lessons-impact\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T17:04:08","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T17:04:08","slug":"veterans-voices-shape-report-on-the-afghanistan-wars-lessons-impact","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/veterans\/2025\/08\/19\/veterans-voices-shape-report-on-the-afghanistan-wars-lessons-impact\/","title":{"rendered":"Veterans\u2019 voices shape report on the Afghanistan War\u2019s lessons, impact"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">COLUMBUS, Ohio \u2014 U.S. veterans of the war in Afghanistan are telling a commission reviewing decisions on the 20-year conflict that their experience was not only hell, but also confounding, demoralizing and at times humiliating.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The bipartisan Afghanistan War Commission aims to reflect such veterans\u2019 experiences in a report due to Congress next year, which will analyze key strategic, diplomatic, military and operational decisions made between June 2001 and the chaotic withdrawal in August 2021.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The group released its second interim report on Tuesday, drawing no conclusions yet but identifying themes emerging from thousands of pages of government documents; some 160 interviews with cabinet-level officials, military commanders, diplomats, Afghan and Pakistani leaders and others; and forums with veterans like one recently held at a national Veterans of Foreign Wars convention in Columbus, Ohio.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWhat can we learn from the Afghanistan War?\u201d asked an Aug. 12 discussion session with four of the commission\u2019s 16 members. What they got was two straight hours of dozens of veterans\u2019 personal stories \u2014 not one glowingly positive, and most saturated in frustration and disappointment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI think the best way to describe that experience was awful,\u201d said Marine veteran Brittany Dymond, who served in Afghanistan in 2012.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Navy veteran Florence Welch said the 2021 withdrawal made her ashamed she ever served there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt turned us into a Vietnam, a Vietnam that none of us worked for,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Members of Congress, some driven by having served in the war, created the independent commission several months after the withdrawal, after an assessment by the Democratic administration of then-President Joe Biden faulted the actions of President Donald Trump\u2019s first administration for constraining U.S. options. A Republican review, in turn, blamed Biden. Views of the events remain divided, and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth ordered yet another review this spring.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The commission wants to understand the bigger picture of a conflict that spanned four presidential administrations and cost more than 2,400 American lives, said Co-Chair Dr. Colin Jackson.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSo we\u2019re interested in looking hard at the end of U.S. engagement in Afghanistan, but we\u2019re equally interested in understanding the beginning, the middle and the end,\u201d he said in an interview in Columbus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Co-chair Shamila Chaudhary said the panel is also exploring more sweeping questions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSo our work is not just about what the U.S. did in Afghanistan but what the U.S. should be doing in any country where it deems it has a national security interest,\u201d she said. \u201cAnd not just should it be there, but how it should behave, what values does it guide itself by, and how does it engage with individuals who are very different from themselves.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/veterans\/2025\/06\/23\/afghanistan-war-commission-hears-from-vets-as-it-tackles-troop-surge\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/229051.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Afghanistan War Commission hears from vets as it tackles troop surge<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">The commission will hold a multipanel hearing on what for many is a defining point of the war: President Barack Obama\u2019s troop surge in late 2009.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jackson said one of the commission\u2019s priorities is making sure the final report, due in August 2026, isn\u2019t \u201cunrecognizable to any veteran of the Afghanistan conflict.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe nature of the report should be representative of every soldier, sailor, airman, Marine experience,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dymond told commissioners a big problem was the mission.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cYou cannot exert a democratic agenda, which is our foreign policy, you cannot do that on a culture of people who are not bought into your ideology,\u201d she said. \u201cWhat else do we expect the outcome to be? And so we had two decades of service members lost and maimed because we\u2019re trying to change an ideology that they didn\u2019t ask for.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The experience left eight-year Army veteran Steve Orf demoralized. He said he didn\u2019t go there \u201cto beat a bad guy.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThose of us who served generally wanted to believe that we were helping to improve the world, and we carried with us the hopes, values, and principles of the United States \u2014 values and principles that also seem to have been casualties of this war,\u201d he told commissioners. \u201cFor many of us, faith with our leaders is broken and trust in our country is broken.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tuesday\u2019s report identifies emerging themes of the review to include strategic drift, interagency incoherence, and whether the war inside Afghanistan and the counterterrorism war beyond were pursuing the same aims or at cross purposes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It also details difficulties the commission has encountered getting key documents. According to the report, the Biden administration initially denied the commission\u2019s requests for White House materials on the implementation of the February 2020 peace agreement Trump signed with the Taliban, called the Doha Agreement, and on the handling of the withdrawal, citing executive confidentiality concerns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The transition to Trump\u2019s second term brought further delays and complications, but since the commission has pressed the urgency of its mission with the new administration, critical intelligence and documents have now begun to flow, the report says.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Veterans of the war in Afghanistan are telling a commission that their experience was not only hell, but but also confounding and 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