{"id":115870,"date":"2018-11-10T20:11:18","date_gmt":"2018-11-10T20:11:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/uncategorized\/2018\/11\/10\/veterans-have-fought-in-wars-and-fought-against-them\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T13:25:19","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T13:25:19","slug":"veterans-have-fought-in-wars-and-fought-against-them","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/commentary\/2018\/11\/10\/veterans-have-fought-in-wars-and-fought-against-them\/","title":{"rendered":"Veterans have fought in wars \u2014 and fought against them"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If President Donald Trump had his way, the nation would be celebrating the centennial of the World War I armistice on Nov. 11 with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/pentagon-congress\/2017\/09\/18\/who-loves-a-parade-trump-wants-to-showcase-military-might\/\" target=_blank>a massive military parade<\/a> in Washington, D.C.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But that won\u2019t be happening. When the Pentagon announced the president\u2019s decision to cancel the parade, they blamed local politicians for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/your-air-force\/2018\/08\/16\/trumps-military-parade-estimated-to-cost-80-million-more-than-previously-estimated\/\" target=_blank>driving up the cost<\/a> of the proposed event.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/your-military\/2018\/08\/17\/after-his-military-parade-fizzles-trump-lashes-out-at-dc-officials\/\" target=_blank>may have been other reasons<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/your-military\/2018\/02\/08\/89-of-readers-say-no-parade\/\" target=_blank>Veterans were especially outspoken<\/a> in their opposition. Retired generals and admirals feared such a demonstration would embarrass the U.S., placing the nation in the company of small-time authoritarian regimes that regularly parade their tanks and missiles as demonstrations of their military might. And some veterans\u2019 organizations opposed the parade because they saw it as a celebration of militarism and war.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Veterans of past wars, as I document in my book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rutgersuniversitypress.org\/guys-like-me\/9781978802810\" target=_blank>\u201cGuys Like Me: Five Wars, Five Veterans for Peace\u201d<\/a> have long been at the forefront of peace advocacy in the United States.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"701\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_France.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-103338\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_France.jpg.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_France.jpg.jpg?resize=300,210 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_France.jpg.jpg?resize=768,538 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Trump was inspired to have a U.S. military parade after watching this French one in 2017.  AP\/Carolyn Kaster<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Politicians\u2019 betrayal?<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Over the past year, the advocacy group Veterans for Peace joined a coalition of 187 organizations that sought to \u201cStop the Military Parade; Reclaim Armistice Day.\u201d There is a deep history to veterans\u2019 peace advocacy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As a young boy, I got my first hint of veterans\u2019 aversion to war from my grandfather, a World War I Army veteran. Just the mention of Veterans Day could trigger a burst of anger that \u201cthe damned politicians\u201d had betrayed veterans of \u201cThe Great War.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In 1954 Armistice Day was renamed Veterans Day. In previous years, citizens in the U.S. and around the world celebrated the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918 not simply as the moment that war ended, but also as the dawning of a lasting peace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThey told us it was \u2018The War to End All Wars,\u2019\u201d my grandfather said to me. \u201cAnd we believed that.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"754\" height=\"947\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_newspaper.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-103342\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_newspaper.jpg.jpg 754w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_newspaper.jpg.jpg?resize=239,300 239w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 754px) 100vw, 754px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The New York Tribune on Nov. 11, 1918.  Library of Congress<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Veterans for peace<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What my grandfather spoke about so forcefully was not an idle dream. In fact, a mass movement for peace had pressed the U.S. government, in 1928, to sign the Kellogg-Briand Pact, an international \u201cTreaty for the Renunciation of War,\u201d sponsored by the United States and France and subsequently signed by most of the nations of the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A State Department historian described the agreement this way: \u201cIn the final version of the pact, they agreed upon two clauses: the first outlawed war as an instrument of national policy and the second called upon signatories to settle their disputes by peaceful means.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The pact did not end war, of course. Within a decade, another global war would erupt. But at the time, the pact articulated the sentiments of ordinary citizens, including World War I veterans and organizations like the Veterans of Foreign Wars, who during the late 1930s opposed U.S. entry into the deepening European conflicts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In 1954, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the law changing the name of the holiday to Veterans Day, to include veterans of World War II and Korea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1199\" height=\"721\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_Veterans-Day-law-signing.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-103345\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_Veterans-Day-law-signing.jpg.jpg 1199w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_Veterans-Day-law-signing.jpg.jpg?resize=300,180 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_Veterans-Day-law-signing.jpg.jpg?resize=768,462 768w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Messner_Veterans-Day-law-signing.jpg.jpg?resize=1024,616 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1199px) 100vw, 1199px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Eisenhower signs H.R.7786, June 1, 1954. This ceremonychanged Armistice Day to VeteransDay. Pictured from left to right, Alvin J.King, Wayne Richards, Arthur J. Connell,John T. Nation, Edward Rees, Richard L.Trombla, and Howard W. Watts look on. Eisenhower Presidential Library and Museum<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For my grandfather, the name change symbolically punctuated the repudiation of the dream of lasting peace. Hope evaporated, replaced with the ugly reality that politicians would continue to find reasons to send American boys \u2014 &#8220;guys like me,\u201d as he put it \u2014 to fight and die in wars.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">World War I, like subsequent wars, incubated a generation of veterans committed to preventing such future horrors for their sons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From working-class Army combat veterans like my grandfather to retired generals like Smedley Butler \u2014 who wrote and delivered public speeches arguing that \u201cwar is a racket,\u201d benefiting only the economic interests of ruling-class industrialists \u2014 World War I veterans spoke out to prevent future wars. And veterans of subsequent wars continue speaking out today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There have been six U.S. presidents since my grandfather\u2019s death in early 1981 \u2014 Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump \u2014 and each committed U.S. military forces to overt or covert wars around the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Most of these wars, large or small, have been met with opposition from veterans\u2019 peace groups. In the 1960s and early 1970s, Vietnam Veterans Against the War was a powerful force in the popular opposition to the American war in Vietnam. And Veterans for Peace, along with About Face: Veterans Against the War remain outspoken against America\u2019s militarism and participation in wars in the Middle East and elsewhere.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Were he alive today, I believe my grandfather would surely express indignation that American leaders continue to send the young to fight and die in wars throughout the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Still, I like to imagine my grandfather smiling had he lived to witness some of the activities that will take place this Nov. 11: Veterans for Peace joins other peace organizations in Washington, D.C. and in cities around the U.S. and the world, marching behind banners that read \u201cObserve Armistice Day, Wage Peace!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><i><b>Michael Messner<\/b><\/i><i> is a professor of sociology and gender studies at the University of Southern California, Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences. 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