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He <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">\u2013 Karns <\/span>said the 2010 time frame for civilian casualties was used because that was when the Air Force began tracking civilian casualty data using <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">a<\/span> new Defense Department <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">DOD <\/span>guidance prompted by the joint staff. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The incidents captured were entered into a data base, validated and met a common definition applied across all the services, Karns said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;When you look at the number of sorties flown where ordnance was expended and civilian casualty incidents resulted during the 2010-2014 time period, the platform with the top incident free rate was the F-15E, then followed by the A-10,&#8221; Karns said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;When you look at the percentage of sorties flown and incidents for the 2010-2014 data for civilian casualties, the most accurate platform based on when ordnance was expended would be the F-15E, then followed by the A-10,&#8221; Karns said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If a reader looks at civilian casualty by incident, however, the A-10 had the highest number of incidents in comparison to other Air Force manned aircraft, Karns said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fratricide numbers dating back to 2001 were more easily provided to the reporter, Karns said. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">INSERT FRATRICIDE 2001-14 #s explanation here<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;What we really try to reinforce is really how very rare occurrences are, statistically speaking,&#8221; Karns said<span class=\"rte rte-comment\"> told Military Times<\/span>. &#8220;I think what you&#8217;re finding right now, is that there&#8217;s a passionate discussion about the A-10, and it is a viable and effective platform. 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