{"id":46020,"date":"2020-10-11T23:23:35","date_gmt":"2020-10-11T23:23:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/uncategorized\/2020\/10\/11\/conflict-in-the-caucasus-recent-exercise-reinforce-modernization-needs-army-chief-says\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T02:25:46","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T02:25:46","slug":"conflict-in-the-caucasus-recent-exercise-reinforce-modernization-needs-army-chief-says","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/home\/left-column\/2020\/10\/11\/conflict-in-the-caucasus-recent-exercise-reinforce-modernization-needs-army-chief-says\/","title":{"rendered":"Conflict in the Caucasus, recent exercise reinforce modernization needs, Army chief says"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">State-produced videos of armored vehicles being devastated by airstrikes during the recent conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan have caused some to wonder whether <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Jake_Hanrahan\/status\/1311979386011299840\" target=\"_blank\">tanks are too vulnerable<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/E_H_Carpenter\/status\/1310692555655270400\" target=\"_blank\">slow and expensive for modern warfare<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Army leaders don\u2019t think so, but the service\u2019s chief of staff said the conflict does highlight a priority in developing air defense systems to defeat drones \u2014 and maybe even swarms of them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt reinforces some of the thoughts we already have,&#8221; Gen. James McConville told Army Times during a recent telephone interview. \u201cWhen we take a look at future warfare, we believe that we will be contested in every single domain. \u2026 We\u2019re certainly going to be challenged on the land.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Manned and unmanned vehicles on the ground and in the air will up the stakes and \u201cit\u2019s going to be very lethal,&#8221; McConville added.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To underscore how different this will be for U.S. forces, McConville noted that the last time a<a href=\"https:\/\/www.airforcemag.com\/PDF\/MagazineArchive\/Documents\/2011\/June%202011\/0611april.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"> U.S. soldier was killed by an enemy aircraft<\/a> was in 1953, during the Korean War.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cSo we\u2019re enjoying air superiority, but we don\u2019t necessarily see that in the future,\u201d he added. \u201cAs we\u2019re seeing in this fight and as we see in other places, [there are] lethal drones that we\u2019re gonna have to deal with.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s why one of the Army\u2019s modernization priorities is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/opinion\/commentary\/2020\/09\/18\/short-range-air-defense-is-making-a-comeback\/\" target=\"_blank\">air and missile defense<\/a>, McConville explained, which includes lines of effort like putting <a href=\"https:\/\/www.military.com\/daily-news\/2020\/10\/02\/army-inks-12-billion-deal-equip-strykers-short-range-air-defense-weapons.html\" target=\"_blank\">short-range Stinger missiles<\/a> on Stryker vehicles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe are developing multiple capabilities to sense swarms of UASs and then defeat them,&#8221; McConville said. &#8220;Whether it\u2019s with a missile, gun, high-powered microwave or laser, we\u2019ll have multiple \u2018arrows,&#8217; so to speak, that we can use against the threat.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/news\/your-military\/2020\/09\/30\/armor-attrition-in-nagorno-karabakh-battle-not-a-sign-us-should-give-up-on-tanks-experts-say\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"168\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/tanks.png.png?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Armor attrition in Nagorno-Karabakh battle not a sign US should give up on tanks, experts say<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">As Armenia and Azerbaijan trade deadly blows in what many worry could turn into full-scale war, America\u2019s military experts take notes on what not to do.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tanks like the Abrams and infantry fighting vehicles like the Bradley still have an important role to play, however.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI see those in the future, because you\u2019ve got to protect the soldiers when you move around on a very lethal battlefield,\u201d McConville said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Traditionally, infantry and armor complement one another by negating each other\u2019s vulnerabilities. Infantry, for instance, can spot and kill anti-tank guided missile teams, and tanks can provide greater cover and maneuverability.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Greater interoperability between combat arms and support branches is the trend around which Army leaders are planning. 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The point of the test this year was to pair artificial intelligence, autonomous systems and robotics together to move data very quickly from sensors to shooters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cBack in the days of Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom, it was probably OK to take tens of minutes identifying the target and then actually putting rounds on,\u201d Army Futures Command boss Gen. John M. 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Information was then sent to shooters on the ground at Yuma, who fired an artillery piece at a target in less than 20 seconds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">McConville was \u201cvery pleased\u201d with the results that came out of the exercise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe idea of picking up a target and getting it to the shooter in seconds versus minutes is really going to change the lethality of the battlefield from where we sit and we really see tremendous potential with what we saw out there,\u201d McConville explained.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That doesn\u2019t mean there won\u2019t be a need for &#8220;a person in the loop,\u201d as McConville framed it. Critical stages will require human oversight. 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