{"id":57556,"date":"2022-12-20T05:28:19","date_gmt":"2022-12-20T05:28:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/uncategorized\/2022\/12\/20\/why-the-marine-corps-may-nix-gender-identifiers-for-drill-instructors\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T21:12:28","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T21:12:28","slug":"why-the-marine-corps-may-nix-gender-identifiers-for-drill-instructors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/news\/2022\/12\/20\/why-the-marine-corps-may-nix-gender-identifiers-for-drill-instructors\/","title":{"rendered":"Why the Marine Corps may nix gender identifiers for drill instructors"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A new academic report on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marinecorpstimes.com\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2022\/10\/21\/marine-boot-camp-study-calls-for-mixed-gender-drill-instructor-teams\/\" target=\"_blank\">efforts to integrate Marine Corps boot camp<\/a> recommends dropping gender-specific salutations for drill instructors, but service leaders are not convinced <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marinecorpstimes.com\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2022\/10\/24\/what-new-injury-performance-data-tells-us-about-marine-boot-camp\/\" target=\"_blank\">they want to take that step.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The lengthy report, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marinecorpstimes.com\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2022\/10\/11\/marine-drill-instructors-crude-sexual-marks-prompt-boot-camps-visit\/\" target=\"_blank\">commissioned by the Corps from the University of Pittsburgh <\/a>in 2020 and completed in 2022, points out that half of the military services already have done away with gendered identifiers for training staff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe Army, Navy, and Coast Guard effectively <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marinecorpstimes.com\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2019\/12\/10\/defense-bill-would-require-gender-integration-at-both-marine-corps-recruit-depots\/\" target=\"_blank\">de-emphasize gender in an integrated environment<\/a>,\u201d the report states. \u201cInstead of saying \u2018ma\u2019am\u2019 or \u2018sir,\u2019 recruits in these Services refer to their drill instructors using their ranks or roles followed by their last names. Gendered identifiers prime recruits to think about or visually search for a drill instructor\u2019s gender first, before their rank or role.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The proposal was under consideration by a Marine Corps leadership team assembled to guide service efforts to integrate boot camp, Col. Howard Hall, chief of staff for Marine Corps Training and Education Command, told the Defense Advisory Committee on Women in the Services in December. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But, he said, leaders had concerns.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThat\u2019s going to take some effort,\u201d Hall told the committee during its quarterly public meeting Dec. 6 in Arlington, Virginia. \u201cHonestly, that\u2019s not a quick fix. What are inculcating in our young recruits that will or will not be reinforced when they graduate and enter the fleet Marine force? So again, we want to avoid any quick-fix solutions that introduce perturbations down the line.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/marinecorpstimes\/news\/your-marine-corps\/2022\/10\/21\/marine-boot-camp-study-calls-for-mixed-gender-drill-instructor-teams\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"175\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/2061266.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Marine boot camp study calls for mixed-gender drill instructor teams<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">The model recommended would keep same-gender drill instructor teams with male and female platoons only for hygiene, sleeping and overnight duty.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The University of Pittsburgh report highlights a number of ways \u2015 subtle and not-so-subtle \u2015 that Marine Corps boot camp centers male recruits and makes male Marines the standard. Three of the five sections of service history taught at boot camp contain no explicit mention of female Marines, and \u201ccore values\u201d guided discussions exclusively highlight the stories of male Marines and sailors when giving examples of real-world heroism and leadership.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These examples paint a picture of a Marine Corps in transition. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Corps still has the smallest percentage of female service members, and until 2019 all female recruits were trained in a single battalion at Marine Corps Recruit Depot Parris Island, South Carolina. Women now train at both Marine Corps boot camps, but training materials have been slow to catch up to that reality. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The study found, for example, that PowerPoint slides from Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego describing service leadership traits still used all male pronouns: \u201cA leader who is confident in his decisions instills confidence in his Marines.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Learning sessions about marriage in the military routinely featured images of husbands in uniform and civilian wives, the study found.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Regarding Marine recruits\u2019 treatment of drill instructors, anecdotes suggested female training staff members, even senior ones, were sometimes treated as less important or authoritative than male counterparts. One male drill instructor told interviewers that he saw a female chief drill instructor, who commanded an entire recruit series, standing ignored on the parade deck as other drill instructors asked for advice from a male peer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The study\u2019s authors suggest that dispensing with \u201csir\u201d and \u201cma\u2019am\u201d in favor of the neutral \u201cdrill instructor\u201d would help to counteract that behavior.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cGender-neutral identifiers are an unambiguous, impartial way to circumvent these issues,\u201d the authors write. \u201cEmploying gender-neutral identifiers eliminates the possibility of misgendering drill instructors, which can unintentionally offend or cause discord. By teaching recruits to use gender-neutral identifiers for their drill instructors, Services underscore the importance of respecting authoritative figures regardless of gender.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hall said the Marine Corps was working to change the training materials highlighted by the University of Pittsburgh study, but expressed concern about making any moves that would put boot camp practices out of step with fleet ones.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAll of a sudden, we change something at recruit training, and recruits start coming in and using a different identifier. It\u2019s not something we would change overnight,\u201d he told Marine Corps Times following the advisory committee meeting. \u201cAgain, we\u2019ve got a history of \u2018sir, ma\u2019am, sir, ma\u2019am. If we change something at the root level, how do we make the corresponding change at the Fleet Marine Force? 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