{"id":69635,"date":"2021-07-07T21:12:30","date_gmt":"2021-07-07T21:12:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/uncategorized\/2021\/07\/07\/why-cant-the-navy-keep-its-surface-warfare-officers\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T19:51:10","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T19:51:10","slug":"why-cant-the-navy-keep-its-surface-warfare-officers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/news\/your-military\/2021\/07\/07\/why-cant-the-navy-keep-its-surface-warfare-officers\/","title":{"rendered":"Why can\u2019t the Navy keep its surface warfare officers?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For one Navy lieutenant, there are certain aspects of life as a surface warfare officer, or SWO, that can\u2019t be beat, such as globe-spanning deployments and pulling into exotic ports.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cPeople join the Navy to see the world,\u201d the O-3 with eight years under her belt told Navy Times. \u201cBut that\u2019s only nine months of your entire cycle on the ship.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For SWOs at her level, even those nine months deployed are full of endless paperwork, assorted busywork and zero sleep, in addition to the manning shortfalls and frenzied operations tempo that plague surface fleet sailors of all ranks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt\u2019s a shitty job, to be honest,\u201d said the lieutenant, who requested anonymity because she was not authorized to speak about her experience. \u201cYou see these pilots who get to fly, and they love flying. (Commanding officers) love driving the ship. But me, as a middle manager on the ship, I don\u2019t sleep. And the CO sleeps less than that.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SWOs are the backbone of the Navy\u2019s surface fleet. But the sea service is struggling to retain them at the end of their contracts, and women are leaving at especially high rates, according to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gao.gov\/products\/gao-21-168\" target=\"_blank\">a recent Government Accountability Office report<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That report found that the SWO retention issue has several causes, with some facets appearing more fixable than others, but it remains unclear whether Big Navy will be amenable to altering the SWO career path, which has steamed along largely unchanged for more than 100 years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"4894\" height=\"3496\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-McCain-ensign.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-41089\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-McCain-ensign.jpg.jpg 4894w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-McCain-ensign.jpg.jpg?resize=300,214 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-McCain-ensign.jpg.jpg?resize=768,549 768w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-McCain-ensign.jpg.jpg?resize=1024,731 1024w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-McCain-ensign.jpg.jpg?resize=1536,1097 1536w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-McCain-ensign.jpg.jpg?resize=2048,1463 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 4894px) 100vw, 4894px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ensign Grayson Sigler scans the horizon while standing watch Dec. 30, 2020, in the pilot house as the guided-missile destroyer John S. McCain transits the South China Sea. (Navy)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SWOs leave the community earlier in their careers and at a higher rate than those in other type communities, such as the submarine and aviation sectors, the report states.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">All told, just 33 percent of SWOs remain in the community after a decade of service, around their first major career milestone, compared to 45 percent of officers in other Navy communities, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gao.gov\/products\/gao-21-168\" target=\"_blank\">according to the GAO<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At the same time, just 12 percent of female SWOs remain in the community after that time, compared with 39 percent of male SWOs, according to the report.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Navy officials told GAO they would like to improve SWO retention beyond the mandatory service requirement, and that other initiatives are at various stages of implementation, but the watchdog questions the sea service\u2019s efforts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cU.S. Navy officials are aware of the SWO communities\u2019 high separation rates but have not used existing information to develop a plan with clearly defined goals, performance measures that identify specific retention rates or determine if initiatives to improve retention are working as planned,\u201d the report states. \u201cDoing so would better position the U.S. Navy to more effectively meet its personnel needs, capitalize on the significant investments made in training SWOs, and retain a more diverse and combat-ready force.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"731\" height=\"226\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/swo-stat.png.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-77001\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/swo-stat.png.png 731w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/swo-stat.png.png?resize=300,93 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 731px) 100vw, 731px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">(Government Accountability Office)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In order to get more junior SWOs ship-driving time and keep them in the force, the Navy has in recent years revamped career paths while increasing retention bonuses at the critical career juncture when a SWO heads off to department head school around the eight-year mark, according to Rear Adm. Derek Trinque, a career SWO now serving as the assistant commander for career management at Navy Personnel Command.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Bonuses have been restructured so that SWOs who are more highly qualified for department head school get bigger bucks, Trinque told Navy Times.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Career path changes also ensure that division officer and department head tours involve being part of a ship\u2019s force as opposed to serving on an afloat staff, he added.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe\u2019re always looking to keep our talented officers,\u201d Trinque said. \u201cI think this is the same across all our communities.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Too many ensigns<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Part of the Navy\u2019s SWO retention issue has to do with a glut of junior officers, according to the GAO.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Navy, on average, commissions nearly twice as many SWOs each year as it needs to fill junior SWO positions on ships, leaving these newbies to compete for ship driving time or other hands-on experience needed to be a good surface warfare officer, according to both the GAO and several SWOs who spoke to Navy Times.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThis is taking limited underway training opportunities and spreading them thinner than can be sustained,\u201d one SWO told GAO investigators. \u201cThis is a huge problem that no one wants to address because SWO retention is so difficult.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When a bunch of junior officers are all crammed into the same job, it\u2019s hard to convince them that what they\u2019re doing is worthwhile, according to one midgrade SWO, who asked to remain anonymous because he was not authorized to speak.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2021\/01\/12\/swo-boss-many-challenges-remain-in-fixing-surface-fleets-manning-problems\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"157\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/destroyer_quartermaster.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">SWO boss: \u2018Many challenges remain\u2019 in fixing surface fleet\u2019s manning problems<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">The effect of such manning shortages became apparent following two ship collisions that killed 17 sailors in 2017.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWhat kind of rewarding opportunity do you have in the surface fleet if there\u2019s three ensigns to a single billet?\u201d the SWO asked. \u201cIf three ensigns are all (auxiliary officer) at the same time, all three of those ensigns feel stupid,\u201d he said. \u201cNone of them are actually AUXO.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From fiscal 2017 to 2021, GAO found that the Navy commissioned an average of 946 SWO ensigns a year, exceeding the number of required ensigns by about 85 percent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For example, the destroyer Mustin averaged 18 SWO trainees aboard the ship when it only required six during the first quarter of 2020, while the cruiser Monterey averaged 21 such trainees when it only had eight slots, according to GAO.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Big Navy does this because of how many SWOs leave around the eight-year mark of their career, the report states.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While noting that he does not know what current SWOs are enduring, retired SWO Bradley Martin \u2014who spent two-thirds of his 30 years at sea \u2014 said that over-commissioning has gone on for a long time to ensure there are enough department heads down the career line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In other words, \u201cattrition is built into the system,\u201d said Martin, now a senior policy analyst with the Rand Corp. and director of their National Security Supply Chain Institute.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThis creates a self-fulfilling prophecy,\u201d he added. \u201cPoor job satisfaction, diminished training opportunity, big crowds of people on the bridge and in other watch stations pretty much induces attrition.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2019\/11\/16\/watchdog-swo-ship-driving-test-scores-continue-to-lag\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/swo-sim.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Watchdog: SWO ship-driving test scores continue to lag<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">A report this week raises questions about the sea service&#039;s ongoing efforts to shore up shoddy seamanship and ship handling skills.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Newly minted SWOs can feel like they have been dropped into the middle of the ship with little to no guidance from higher-ranking SWOs dealing with their own deluge of work, according to the lieutenant, who recalled having \u201ca made-up job\u201d on her first ship.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It\u2019s often easier for more seasoned SWOs to just do jobs themselves than take the time to teach a junior officer how to do it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe say that SWOs eat their young, and it\u2019s true,\u201d the lieutenant said. \u201cThey\u2019re essentially told to figure it out. It\u2019s a double-edged sword of people in the upper chains having no time to train the ensign and then they get mad because they\u2019re not trained.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Some go-getter ensigns \u2014 the type of officer the Navy would want to keep \u2014 end up eyeing the exit because of the lack of meaningful work or purpose, she said, while some who are content to do nothing end up sticking around. The lieutenant recalled the situation of one junior officer on another ship who also had no job.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cShe was just walking around asking people if they needed help,\u201d the lieutenant said. \u201cShe had nothing to do.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Junior officers also suffer from imposter syndrome, according to the midgrade SWO, who recalled his own early days.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI felt really dumb,\u201d the SWO said. \u201cI kept getting popped from job to job. You spend so much time trying to cultivate value in yourself.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A lot of junior officers never get to do the job they thought they were going to do, he added.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt\u2019s called a surface warfare officer,\u201d he said. \u201cA lot of people go through their entire time as a (division officer) and never encounter that \u2018W\u2019 at all. It\u2019s the surface admin officer or the surface PQS officer. When does the rubber meet the road? It never does.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2250\" height=\"1500\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-Sterett.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-77005\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-Sterett.jpg.jpg 2250w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-Sterett.jpg.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-Sterett.jpg.jpg?resize=768,512 768w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-Sterett.jpg.jpg?resize=1024,683 1024w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-Sterett.jpg.jpg?resize=1536,1024 1536w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-Sterett.jpg.jpg?resize=2048,1365 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2250px) 100vw, 2250px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Sailors aboard the guided-missile destroyer Sterett raise the anchor chain in preparation for getting underway in 2017. (Navy)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The midgrade SWO attributes a lot of these problems to the diminished fleet size and not having enough ships to accommodate everyone and allow junior officers the chance to really learn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe\u2019re in a constant bum rush to deployment \u2026 on a sprint to meet all these requirements the fleet doesn\u2019t have the capacity to reasonably meet,\u201d he said. \u201cYou\u2019ve got a bunch of junior officers in washed-out jobs that don\u2019t really reflect the kind of opportunity we\u2019d want them to have, on ships that are strung out and undermanned.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cNone of that is a recipe for success.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Still, the SWO said he is hearing good things about reforms to basic and advanced division officer courses, as well as increased simulator training the Navy stood up following the 2017 collisions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIf the fleet and fleet manning were different, I think that the training that\u2019s in place, all the simulators, I think we could do a really good job,\u201d he said. \u201cWe just don\u2019t have the time and we don\u2019t have the ships. \u2026 It\u2019s just this death spiral of personnel and force structure decisions.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Navy officials told GAO they were aware that \u201cover-commissioning\u201d junior SWOs increases competition aboard ships at sea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Those officials argued to GAO that such practices can be beneficial, \u201cas it provides additional personnel to conduct ship-board duties while at sea.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The sea service has expanded the amount of classroom training for junior SWOs, while constructing new simulator-based training facilities and no longer assigning junior SWOs to ships in extended maintenance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Junior SWOs have also had their first at-sea assignment lengthened from 24 months to 30 months, according to GAO.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cHowever, these changes may have exacerbated the issue of hindering training opportunities at sea, since they ultimately reduce the number of ships new officers can serve aboard, further increasing the number of new SWOs aboard ships at sea,\u201d the report states.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The midgrade SWO said he thought the Navy would be courting disaster if it started commissioning fewer junior SWOs, because the results would be horrendous if the same number quit down the line, leaving massive holes in the force.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Adding to the glut is the fact that more than 20 percent of newly commissioned SWOs are on a career path that will see them leave the SWO world and transfer into other Navy jobs that don\u2019t accept newly commissioned junior officers, such as intelligence and cryptologic warfare.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/OOD-training.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-48697\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/OOD-training.jpg.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/OOD-training.jpg.jpg?resize=300,157 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/OOD-training.jpg.jpg?resize=768,402 768w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/OOD-training.jpg.jpg?resize=1024,536 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The recent GAO findings are not news for the Navy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After the 2017 fatal ship collisions, the Navy\u2019s Strategic Readiness Review noted that over-commissioning junior SWOs \u201cdirectly contributed to declining SWO readiness,\u201d according to GAO.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A parallel Comprehensive Review \u201cnoted that the U.S. Navy\u2019s practice of over-commissioning SWOs makes it challenging to build proficiency and experience in ship-driving.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Navy could better capture the effects of these practices if it pulled data from the Surface Warfare Mariner Skills Logbook, which since 2018 has required SWOs to document their ship-driving and related experience in a handwritten logbook.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But GAO found that to date, the Navy hasn\u2019t analyzed logbook data for insightful trends.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>SWOs and family don\u2019t mix<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While sexism remains a recurring concern in a male-dominated military, the female lieutenant said she doesn\u2019t think that explains why female SWOs leave the Navy at such a clip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThey want to leave because they want to have a family,\u201d she said. \u201cAnd SWO life doesn\u2019t offer a good family environment.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If a female SWO is on sea duty aboard a ship and becomes pregnant, she is removed from the ship but still listed as part of the ship\u2019s crew, and it takes time to refill the billet, according to the lieutenant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This leads to resentment among the other SWOs on the ship because they must pick up the slack, she said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI know of women who have purposely gotten pregnant and women who have accidentally gotten pregnant, and they were both treated like trash,\u201d she said. \u201cMost women want to get out so they don\u2019t have to plan their family life around when the Navy allows them to have a baby.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While female SWOs aren\u2019t sticking around, the number of SWO women is more than three times higher than female representation in other Navy officer communities, the GAO found.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But while Naval Surface Forces gathers information on SWO separation rates by gender, \u201cit has not used this to develop a plan to improve either overall SWO retention or female SWO retention,\u201d according to the GAO.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cNavy officials told us that they have not identified specific actions to increase female SWO retention rates, and they do not plan to identify specific actions that may increase female SWO retention rates because they do not consider gender as a factor when developing plans to increase retention,\u201d the report states.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"3000\" height=\"1881\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-destroyers.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-77010\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-destroyers.jpg.jpg 3000w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-destroyers.jpg.jpg?resize=300,188 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-destroyers.jpg.jpg?resize=768,482 768w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-destroyers.jpg.jpg?resize=1024,642 1024w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-destroyers.jpg.jpg?resize=1536,963 1536w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/NAV-spread-destroyers.jpg.jpg?resize=2048,1284 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 3000px) 100vw, 3000px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ships from Destroyer Squadron 26 maneuver into formation during an exercise in 2014. (Navy)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>Generalist vs. specialist<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">An age-old debate in the SWO community revolves around whether officers should be generalized, jack-of-all-traders or authoritative specialists on a given ship system.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Big Navy has long snubbed the idea of SWO specialization, but by a margin of four to one, SWOs surveyed by GAO said they would prefer specialized career paths.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Junior officers reported a higher likelihood of staying in if they could specialize as well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe generalist SWO career path may have worked well 50 years ago, but waterways are becoming increasingly congested \u2026 combat systems and tactics are becoming more technical and pressurized with our now-peer superpowers like China, and we generally have too few resources (people and ships) to meet the Combatant Command operational demands,\u201d one SWO told the GAO. \u201cWe should have specialized SWOs in ship navigation, tactics and combat systems employment, and in engineering.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Part of the rationale for a generalist path is that a ship\u2019s commanding officer needs to be knowledgeable on all parts of their ship, but according to the GAO, just 22 percent of surveyed SWOs wish to become commanding officers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Junior SWOs indicated to the GAO that they were more likely to stay in if they could be on a path \u201cthat does not provide the opportunity to command a ship.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Count the female lieutenant among those in support of SWO specialization.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"667\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/ensign-pinning.jpg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-77011\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/ensign-pinning.jpg.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/ensign-pinning.jpg.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/ensign-pinning.jpg.jpg?resize=768,512 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Ensign Soon Hyung Kwon, right, receives his surface warfare officer pin from Chief Cryptologic Technician (Technical) Eugene Parker on April 29, 2021, aboard the warship Cole as U.S. Fleet Forces Command head Adm. 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