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It&#8217;s reasonable to have a lot of questions now, but as the information gets out they will understand and like what&#8217;s going on.&#8221; <br\/> <br\/>Mabus&#8217; move overnight stripped sailors of time-honored titles that defined their jobs and even their Navy lives. Boatswain&#8217;s mate. Fire control technician. Engineman. Hospital corpsman. And more than 80 more. Sailors have launched a  <a class=\"\" href=\"https:\/\/petitions.whitehouse.gov\/petition\/restore-traditional-navy-rating-specialty-titles-disestablished-9292016\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Link: https:\/\/petitions.whitehouse.gov\/petition\/restore-traditional-navy-rating-specialty-titles-disestablished-9292016\">White House petition to restore these titles<\/a>. <br\/> <br\/><\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mabus says the move &#8212; which also removed the word &#8220;man&#8221; from all job titles except &#8220;seaman&#8221; &#8212; will prevent the use of force-out panels like enlisted retention boards and any return to tough re-enlistment approval policies. The ERB forced out 2,947 sailors in 2012.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;ERB, Perform-to-Serve were terrible. 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