{"id":14612,"date":"2015-01-31T15:16:43","date_gmt":"2015-01-31T15:16:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/uncategorized\/2015\/01\/31\/lawyer-lax-rules-preceded-submarine-shower-videos\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T19:07:11","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T19:07:11","slug":"lawyer-lax-rules-preceded-submarine-shower-videos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2015\/01\/31\/lawyer-lax-rules-preceded-submarine-shower-videos\/","title":{"rendered":"Lawyer: Lax rules preceded submarine shower videos"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>A <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">s a <\/span>dozen male sailors are waiting to see whether they&#8217;ll be <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">officially <\/span>charged for recording, distributing or not reporting videos of their female shipmates in a submarine&#8217;s shower changing area for over a year. And one suspect&#8217;s attorney is building a defense based, at least in part, on the contention that personal electronics rules aboard a sub are muddy and unevenly enforced.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Attorney James Stein, based near Kings Bay in Camden County, Georgia, contends that not only is the PED instruction confusing, most sailors and officers don&#8217;t follow it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;My information is that the use of the devices was widespread among most of the crew, officers included,&#8221; he told Navy Times in a Jan. 16 phone interview. &#8220;I also have information that by the time the sub hit the docks, officers and enlisted men were using the devices.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It is the first sign of a possible defense in the high-profile case. A Navy official confirmed to Navy Times in December that investigators suspected seven videos had been taken with a cell phone camera aboard the Kings Bay, Georgia-based ballistic missile submarine Wyoming.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Separate command and criminal investigations, meanwhile, are <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">completed and <\/span>under review by the boat&#8217;s chain of command. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">one suspect&#8217;s lawyer is building a defense around Wyoming&#8217;s personal electronic device policy, which he says is too confusing about where and when PEDs are allowed on board.<\/span>Stein declined to identify the sailor or specify what the type of conduct he was implicated in. No formal charges had been filed as of Jan. 30.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Stein said that while his client was in the wrong for playing any role in the videos<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">allegedly using his cell phone aboard the sub<\/span>, the Navy bears some responsibility for the widespread misuse that preceded the illicit filming of female officers undressing, and cited a PED use agreement. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">the Navy should take a look at its PED policy and how it could have contributed to the situation.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;When I look at that agreement, I think what we&#8217;ve stumbled on is a widespread breech of security, I&#8217;m sure of that,&#8221; Stein said. &#8220;The Navy&#8217;s remiss in not protecting us a little bit more than that.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Historically, cell phones have not been allowed aboard submarines, because the entire boat is considered a secret space. 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