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When they weren\u2019t operating anchoring systems, they still handled, maintained, loaded, launched and stored torpedoes, Tomahawk cruise missiles and countermeasure devices.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cool.navy.mil\/usn\/enlisted\/mm.htm\" target=_blank>Machinist\u2019s mates on surface ships<\/a> operate and maintain propulsion machinery and a host of other equipment. 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