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Some highlights:\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">Leaders from around the fleet discussed issues of leadership, mental health and the arrival over the next 12 months of enlisted women in the fleet.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here&#8217;s what they had to say.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Mental health<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A submariner is medevaced from their sub\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">every<\/span> every 14 days for mental health issues, an issue the Submarine community is trying to tackle through better access to mental health care, the Atlantic Fleet&#8217;s top enlisted bubblehead<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">submariner<\/span> said Oct. 22.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mental health issues account for about 30 percent of the unplanned losses \u2014\u00a0where sailors <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">who have to <\/span>leave the fleet for reasons other than normal rotation or temporary assigned duty<span class=\"rte rte-comment\"> &#8212; are due to mental health issues<\/span>, Force Master Chief Wes Koshoffer said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s a trait that is pronounced among the millennial generation now populating the lower ranks, with most losses among sailors E-1 to E-6<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">, and one that requires the sub force to think differently about how to lead the new generation in the silent service<\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;I&#8217;m a fan of millennials all day long: They are smart, capable, driven \u2014 they are getting the job done,&#8221; Koshoffer said. &#8220;But there is a flaw in the system, and that&#8217;s this millennial phenomenon that the reaction to discipline, failure or rejection, generally [elicits] a response disproportionate to what you would expect.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Setbacks and challenges can cause tumult, even suicidal thoughts for younger sailors. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">Getting\u00a0Koshoffer said the problem is pronounced during normal events in a sailors&#8217; 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he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fleet areas now have an\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">The fleet has an <\/span>embedded mental health professional who\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">on the waterfront now and <\/span>works<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">ed<\/span> with chaplains to better address the issues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;We&#8217;ve trained ourselves on how to react, we don&#8217;t overreact,&#8221; he said. &#8220;We take them off the ship, get them help &#8230; and when we get the &#8216;go&#8217; signal from a mental health professional, we get them right back in the force instead of overreacting and having them as a loss forever.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Koshoffer said 95 percent of the unplanned losses in the fleet were among E-1-E-6 sailors.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Women on subs<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The first four enlisted women passed the intensive basic enlisted submarine course Oct. 16, Koshoffer said, bringing the <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">planned<\/span> integration of enlisted women on sub<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">marine<\/span>s this year one step closer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The women will join the Blue and Gold crews of the guided-missile submarine Michigan, where berthings are being modified to accommodate them.\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">berthings modified to accommodate them.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"rte rte-comment\">In the wake of the integration efforts, <\/span>The sub force is reviewing its policies around relationships between submariners, Koshoffer said, citing a few couples who met in &#8220;A&#8221; school and who are now in advanced training together.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;The sum total of the plan to integrate enlisted women into submarines, we are revising our instruction that was \u2014 no kidding \u2014\u00a049 pages long of excruciating detail on what you wear on the treadmill and how you manage the head. 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