{"id":26115,"date":"2022-08-11T18:49:04","date_gmt":"2022-08-11T18:49:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/uncategorized\/2022\/08\/11\/everything-we-know-gen-milley-has-told-the-jan-6-panel\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T06:40:45","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T06:40:45","slug":"everything-we-know-gen-milley-has-told-the-jan-6-panel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/pentagon-congress\/2022\/08\/11\/everything-we-know-gen-milley-has-told-the-jan-6-panel\/","title":{"rendered":"Everything we know Gen. Milley has told the Jan. 6 panel"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Pentagon has come under heavy scrutiny for its actions \u2014 and its inaction \u2014 on Jan. 6, 2021.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Most notably, the D.C. National Guard arrived at the Capitol more than three and a half hours after the violence began. And it emerged this summer that the Pentagon <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/pentagon-congress\/2022\/08\/03\/dods-missing-jan-6-phone-records-need-investigation-senate-leader-demands\/\" target=\"_blank\">wiped the phones<\/a> of top officials as they departed at the end of the Trump administration, deleting key records from that day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But in testimony given behind closed doors to the House committee investigating the attack on the Capitol, Army Gen. Mark Milley, the Defense Department\u2019s top uniformed officer, has helped shed some light on what took place at the Pentagon on Jan. 6 and in the days that followed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">During its blockbuster televised hearings, the Jan. 6 committee has played short audio clips of testimony by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. All of the audio that has been released so far was played at the July 21 hearing, although some of the snippets were also previewed on June 9, the first day of the hearings.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">More testimony from Milley may come out when <a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2022\/07\/23\/1112940708\/jan-6-committee-whats-next\" target=\"_blank\">the hearings resume<\/a> in September, once Congress returns from its summer recess.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the scraps of testimony that the committee has presented, Milley has addressed then-President Donald Trump\u2019s conspicuous inaction, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/pentagon-congress\/2022\/06\/10\/pence-not-trump-asked-guard-troops-to-help-defend-capitol-on-jan-6-panel-says\/\" target=\"_blank\">then-Vice President Mike Pence\u2019s plea to activate<\/a> the National Guard, and his own phone calls with then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows in the aftermath of the attack.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here\u2019s all of Milley\u2019s testimony that has been released so far.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Milley\u2019s response to Trump\u2019s behavior on Jan. 6<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In a snippet presented by Rep. Adam Kinziger, who was driving home Trump\u2019s refusal to act during the attacks on the Capitol, Milley <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/BrT_qfcCtvU?t=1159\" target=\"_blank\">explained his reaction<\/a> to Trump\u2019s behavior.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>\u201cYeah. You know, commander in chief, you got an assault going on on the Capitol of the United States of America. And there\u2019s nothing? No call? Nothing? Zero?\u201d<\/b> Milley said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Kinzinger, an Air Force veteran, added, \u201cI can tell you that General Milley\u2019s reaction to President Trump\u2019s conduct is 100% correct.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">It was Pence who called to activate the Guard<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Later in the July 21 hearing, Rep. Elaine Luria relied on <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/BrT_qfcCtvU?t=6713\" target=\"_blank\">testimony by Milley<\/a> to demonstrate that it had been Vice President Mike Pence \u2014 and not Trump \u2014 who made efforts to secure the Capitol so it could resume its joint session, including by calling military leaders.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Milley told the committee:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>\u201cVice President Pence? There were two or three calls with Vice President Pence. He was very animated, and he issued very explicit, very direct, unambiguous orders. There was no question about that.\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Pence\u2019s orders were \u2018direct\u2019 and \u2018firm\u2019<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>\u201c[Pence] was \u2014 and I can give you the exact quotes, I guess, from some of our record somewhere \u2014 but he was very animated, very direct, very firm,\u201d<\/b> Milley said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>\u201cAnd to Secretary Miller, \u2018get the military down here, get the Guard down here, put down this situation,\u2019 etc.,\u201d <\/b>Milley added, paraphrasing Pence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Christopher Miller, then the acting defense secretary, told the D.C. Guard at 3:04 p.m. to deploy to the Capitol.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Guard arrived at the scene at 5:40 p.m., after the violence had largely ended.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Milley refused to join in on Trump\u2019s narrative<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Luria then introduced a snippet of Milley <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/BrT_qfcCtvU?t=6772\" target=\"_blank\">describing a phone call<\/a> he had with Mark Meadows, Trump\u2019s chief of staff.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>\u201c[Meadows] said \u2014 this is from memory. He said, \u2018We have \u2014 we have to kill the narrative that the vice president is making all the decisions. We need to establish the narrative that, you know, that the president is still in charge and that things are steady or stable or words to that effect.\u2019 I immediately interpret that as politics, politics, politics,\u201d <\/b>Milley said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>\u201cRed flag for me personally, no action, but I remember it distinctly,\u201d <\/b>he added. \u201c<b>And \u2014 and I don\u2019t do political narratives.\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">According to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/magazine\/2022\/08\/15\/inside-the-war-between-trump-and-his-generals\" target=\"_blank\">recent reporting<\/a> in The New Yorker, Milley has been especially sensitive to any appearance of politicization since he received criticism for marching in battle fatigues in a June 2020 photo op with Trump after the president had the area forcibly cleared of Black Lives Matter protesters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Trump was in a \u2018dark place\u2019<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The committee also presented testimony by administration officials who said they were disgusted by Trump\u2019s response to the attack but did not resign because they were, in Kinzinger\u2019s words, \u201csincerely worried that leaving President Trump to his own devices would put the country at continued risk.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Milley <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/BrT_qfcCtvU?t=7770\" target=\"_blank\">described calls<\/a> he had with members of Trump\u2019s inner circle, including the White House chief of staff and the secretary of state, to keep tabs on the president.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>\u201cThere was a couple of the calls where, you know, Meadows and\/or Pompeo, but more Meadows, you know, how \u2014 how is the president doing?\u201d <\/b>Milley recalled.<b> \u201cLike, Pompeo might say, \u2018How\u2019s the president doing?\u2019 And Meadows would say, \u2018Well, he\u2019s in a really dark place.\u2019 Like here\u2019s one, for example, on the 7th of January.\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Milley then quoted what Meadows told him on that call: <b>\u201cPOTUS is very emotional and in a bad place.\u201d<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In private, Milley referred to these conversations as \u201cland the plane\u201d calls, according to recent reporting in The New Yorker.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here is all of the publicly released testimony by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, in one place.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":54702,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_yoast_wpseo_meta-robots-noindex":"","_yoast_wpseo_meta-robots-nofollow":"","_yoast_wpseo_canonical":"","_acf":"","_yoast_wpseo_primary_category":62,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","_smg_distribution_targets":[]},"categories":[101,23,89,12,26,62,65],"tags":[],"coauthors":[3366],"class_list":["post-26115","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-daily-news-roundup","category-home","category-middle-column","category-news","category-newsletters","category-pentagon-congress","category-your-navy"],"acf":{"subheadline":"","legacy_arc_id":"HWW63D7QW5BV3HXV5BOCAAR66M","arc_canonical_url":"\/news\/2022\/08\/11\/everything-we-know-gen-milley-has-told-the-jan-6-panel\/","remove_feature_photo":false,"is_sponsored":false,"subtype":"","redirect_url":"","disable_inline_ads":false,"native_logo_pretext":"Presented By:"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v26.0 (Yoast SEO v28.1) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Everything we know Gen. 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