{"id":27313,"date":"2016-01-18T15:00:17","date_gmt":"2016-01-18T15:00:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/uncategorized\/2016\/01\/18\/mcpon-wants-sailor-suggestions-for-job-title-review\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T19:33:08","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T19:33:08","slug":"mcpon-wants-sailor-suggestions-for-job-title-review","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2016\/01\/18\/mcpon-wants-sailor-suggestions-for-job-title-review\/","title":{"rendered":"MCPON wants sailor suggestions for job title review"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The leader who will head the Navy&#8217;s unpopular gender-neutral review sees it as more than a chance to remove &#8220;man&#8221; from some job titles, but as a means to review and rename some titles to make them more relevant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Navy Secretary Ray Mabus ordered the review of job titles, which prompted thousands to bash the idea on Facebook as political correctness run amok.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The reaction to Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus&#8217; gender-neutral\u00a0review of all the Navy&#8217;s job titles\u00a0has been overwhelming \u2014 sailors hate the idea \u00a0\u2014 with most men and wormen responding\u00a0feel it&#8217;s just a waste of time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Over a one hundred sailors voiced this and similar opinion in letters to the editor of Navy Times, \u00a0thousands more chimed in on Facebook, usually with a theme that the Navy gone too politically correct.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But the\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">where some see a waste of time, e <\/span>Navy\u2019s top enlisted sailor sees an opportunity and has\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">and\u00a0he\u2019s <\/span>volunteered to lead the <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">Navy\u2019s <\/span>effort\u00a0by getting the brass to agree to a complete review.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><p><strong>Have a suggestion for a new job title or an opinion about the naming review? Tell us at <a href=\"mailto:navylet@navytimes.com\">Navylet@navytimes.com\u00a0<\/a><\/strong><\/p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;What he&#8217;s asked us to do is, when and where it&#8217;s appropriate, let&#8217;s take a look at where we can take &#8216;man&#8217; or &#8216;men&#8217; out of the nomenclature,&#8221; said Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (AW\/NAC) Mike Stevens in a Jan. 14 interview. &#8220;But I think we can also review all our ratings. \u2026 Maybe there&#8217;s rating titles out there that just don&#8217;t make sense anymore.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Stevens has read SECNAV&#8217;s memo and discussed it with Chief of Naval Personnel <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">the matter with both <\/span>Vice Adm. Bill Moran and\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">the Navy \u2019s chief of personnel as well as Stevens\u2019 own boss, <\/span>Chief of Naval Operations Adm. John Richardson<span class=\"rte rte-comment\"> and told both, he wants to run with the ball, his review won&#8217;t only check for gender-neutrality &#8212; he&#8217;s looking for relevance in job titles, too<\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">His price for taking the job was that leadership agree to a complete review &#8212; not just removing &#8220;man&#8221; from titles. His idea goes much deeper.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;What he&#8217;s asked us to do is when and where it&#8217;s appropriate, let&#8217;s take a look at where we can take &#8216;man&#8217; or &#8216;men&#8217; out of the nomenclature,&#8221; he said. &#8220;But I think we can also review all our ratings\u2026maybe there&#8217;s rating titles out there that just don&#8217;t make sense anymore.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Over time<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">, he says,<\/span> the scope of career fields <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">naturally <\/span>change and sometimes they change enough to where the title doesn\u2019t accurately depict what the job is \u2014 or even offer a clue about it.\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">doesn\u2019t actually give a clue what the job actually is. \u00a0Often<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;I&#8217;ve already seen the chatter that&#8217;s going about this and what I hope people recognize that this is what the secretary of the Navy has asked us to do,&#8221; \u00a0said Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (AW\/NAC) Mike Stevens in a Jan. 14 interview with Navy Times.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;The order has been given and what I choose to do is look at it as opportunity \u2014 it&#8217;s better to be a part of the solution than to stand back and complain.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This is an opportunity to\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">\u00a0, that\u2019s his opportunity, he says, to <\/span>bring the Navy\u2019s job titles, where necessary and possible,\u00a0in <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">better <\/span>alignment with the work being done.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Stevens said the review is set to start in late January. He wants to call on senior enlisted sailors from\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">His plan is to use senior enlisted sailors from <\/span>the Navy\u2019s major communities to come forward with recommendations \u2014\u00a0based on deckplate ideas about how sailors describe their jobs.\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">do most of the heavy lifting, but it\u2019s not their opinions he\u2019s looking for, eithe &#8212; he wants to hear ideas from sailors on how best to describe their jobs. \u00a0says he\u2019s already in the early stages of planning the review, but plans to move out quickly and will start the effort this month.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;First thing that went through my mind is that this can\u2019t be my idea \u2014 this has to come from the fleet,&#8221; Stevens said. &#8220;It needs to work it\u2019s way up through enlisted leadership so when they show up in Washington D.C. and go in my conference room and start working on this, that they are the voice of their people.&#8221;<span class=\"rte rte-comment\"> he said.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To get that voice, he&#8217;s sending these yet-to-be-names enlisted leaders out to the fleet to talk to sailors and leaders alike and get their opinions on what is valid today and what&#8217;s not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">Before I bring them in, <\/span>I\u2019m going to give them time to go out and canvass the fleet \u2014 to pulse the fleet and solicit thoughts, ideas and recommendations,&#8221; he continued.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Stevens acknowledged that he&#8217;s taking over a highly unpopular initiative. Thousands complained the effort was a waste of resources that would overturn coveted traditions.\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">Navy risked\u00a0Many of the complainants feel Mabus\u2019 mandate is yet another way the Navy is messing with tradition.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;As a proud female Navy veteran, I can honestly say I couldn&#8217;t care less if the word &#8220;man&#8221; was in any rate title,&#8221; one woman commented in response to the Navy Times article.\u00a0&#8220;I&#8217;m 100 percent confident that I could do any job just as well as a male counterpart\u2026 I wouldn&#8217;t need to be coddled with some flowery politically correct term.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Seeking sailors&#8217; ideas<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Stevens said the review will closely evaluate all job titles for changes and that there will be opportunities to make the case to save some popular ones to Mabus.\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">And Stevens hears those arguments, too. He\u00a0says there\u2019s going to be a time and place where arguments can be made to keep a name, even if it has man or men in the title. \u00a0And Mabus, he says will listen, though there are no guarantees.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;You may argue the point\u2026that we shouldn&#8217;t change [a name] because of A or B \u2014 but I don&#8217;t think he\u00a0wants us to come back and say we don&#8217;t want to do anything,&#8221; Stevens said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Stevens points out that what many overlook is that\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">And though he\u2019s sensitive to tradition, he says what many sailors don\u2019t realize is that that in the history of the Navy, <\/span>rating titles have come and gone many times over the past 240 years.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;We&#8217;ve done this somewhere around 700 times \u2014 we&#8217;ve stood up rates, we&#8217;ve stood down rates,&#8221; he said. \u00a0&#8220;I was talking to a corpsman the other day and guess what they used to be called? 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You could go down the list and so many rates have had different titles.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Stevens <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">honestly <\/span>believes that when push come to shove \u2014 fleet sailors in these ratings can some up with viable alternatives<span class=\"rte rte-comment\"> that meet the Navy\u2019s needs \u2014 they sometimes just need a push<\/span>.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;It&#8217;s good to step back once in a while and take a look at things,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Where so many are hung up on taking the man or men out of the titles, I see this as an opportunity to take a holistic view at our rating tiles and see what works best and let sailors tell us.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He relayed a conversation he had earlier in the week at <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">this week at <\/span>the annual Surface Navy Symposium in Arlington, Virginia, where a sailor begged him not to change the job title, &#8220;engineman.&#8221;\u00a0\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">with a sailor who was bending his year about not wanting to change the name of the engiineman rating.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you had to change it though, Stevens said, what should it be?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The sailor said he needed a minute to think about it. The new title he came up with\u00a0\u2014 propulsion mechanic.\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">When Stevens pushed the sailor asking him to make a suggestion for a new name anyway, even though he didn\u2019t like the idea. \u00a0The sailor, Steven said ask for a minute to think about it.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A few minutes later, Stevens said he asked again and the sailor offered up \u00a0the title of propulsion mechanic, Stevens said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;That&#8217;s just one sailor in five minutes,&#8221; Stevens\u00a0said. &#8220;So imagine if you have nearly 290,000 enlisted sailors out there who are going to have an opportunity to provide their leadership input\u00a0\u2014 I think that what we&#8217;re all going to be blown away with the ideas and recommendations they have.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The reaction to Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus\u2019 gender-nmandate to review all the Navy\u2019s job titles, \u00a0with an eye to make them gender neutral,has been overwhelming \u2014 sailors hate the idea \u2014 and many, both men and women\u00a0feel it\u2019s just a waste of time<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":7,"featured_media":56124,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_yoast_wpseo_meta-robots-noindex":"","_yoast_wpseo_meta-robots-nofollow":"","_yoast_wpseo_canonical":"","_acf":"","_yoast_wpseo_primary_category":65,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","_smg_distribution_targets":[]},"categories":[12,65],"tags":[],"coauthors":[3087],"class_list":["post-27313","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-news","category-your-navy"],"acf":{"subheadline":"","legacy_arc_id":"OAU66NCMZBGXDOAZQ4IHVP2ZJU","arc_canonical_url":"\/news\/your-navy\/2016\/01\/18\/mcpon-wants-sailor-suggestions-for-job-title-review\/","remove_feature_photo":false,"is_sponsored":false,"subtype":"","redirect_url":"","disable_inline_ads":false,"native_logo_pretext":"Presented By:"},"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v26.0 (Yoast SEO v28.1) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>MCPON wants sailor suggestions for job title review - Navy Times<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The reaction to Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus\u2019 gender-nmandate to review all the Navy\u2019s job titles, \u00a0with an eye to make them gender neutral,has been overwhelming \u2014 sailors hate the idea \u2014 and many, both men and women\u00a0feel it\u2019s just a waste of time\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"noindex, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"MCPON wants sailor suggestions for job title review\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"The reaction to Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus\u2019 gender-nmandate to review all the Navy\u2019s job titles, \u00a0with an eye to make them gender neutral,has been overwhelming \u2014 sailors hate the idea \u2014 and many, both men and women\u00a0feel it\u2019s just a waste of time\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2016\/01\/18\/mcpon-wants-sailor-suggestions-for-job-title-review\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Navy Times\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2016-01-18T15:00:17+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2026-08-08T19:33:08+00:00\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Mark D. 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