{"id":28790,"date":"2021-02-11T20:39:30","date_gmt":"2021-02-11T20:39:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/uncategorized\/2021\/02\/11\/the-navy-has-no-idea-how-many-sailors-it-has-booted-for-extremist-activity\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T19:35:42","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T19:35:42","slug":"the-navy-has-no-idea-how-many-sailors-it-has-booted-for-extremist-activity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2021\/02\/11\/the-navy-has-no-idea-how-many-sailors-it-has-booted-for-extremist-activity\/","title":{"rendered":"The Navy has no idea how many sailors it has booted for extremist activity"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The U.S. Navy has a regulation for everything, it sometimes seems, and kicking enlisted sailors out for \u201csupremacist or extremist conduct\u201d is no exception.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But the sea service has no idea how many sailors it has actually booted under that reg because it doesn\u2019t track such violations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">News of this knowledge gap comes as the Pentagon works to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/your-military\/2021\/02\/03\/defense-secretary-orders-60-day-stand-down-to-confront-extremism-in-the-military\/\" target=_blank>assess supremacist extremism in the ranks<\/a> following the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Section 1910-160 of the Naval Military Personnel Manual, known in mil-speak as MILPERSMAN, covers \u201cseparation by reason of supremacist or extremist conduct\u201d and lays out the circumstances under which a sailor should be separated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cMembers must be processed following disciplinary or administrative action for any substantiated incident of serious misconduct resulting from participation in supremacist or extremist activities,\u201d the regulation states.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sailors must be processed out following disciplinary action taken for any substantiated incident that involves illegal discrimination or \u201cadvocating the use of force or violence against any federal, state, or local government or agency thereof, in violation of federal, state or local laws.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/news\/your-military\/2021\/02\/09\/secdef-stand-down-on-extremism-not-meant-to-be-panacea-says-pentagon-spokesman\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Retired-Gen.-Lloyd-Austin.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">SECDEF stand down on extremism not meant to be panacea, says Pentagon spokesman<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">DoD creates commission and orders stand down.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It also lists several Uniform Code of Military Justice articles that would likely be connected to such cases.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Any commanding officer would list a violation of MILPERSMAN 1910-160 as a reason for separation in the required paperwork.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But when Navy Times filed a Freedom of Information Act request last month seeking records for sailors separated under this supremacist and extremist regulation, Navy Personnel Command officials admitted that they don\u2019t track how many sailors are separated under that or any MILPERSMAN section.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWhen it comes to the reason why a Sailor is administratively separated from the Navy, our system does not track those separations based on the MILPERSMAN violation,\u201d Navy Personnel Command spokesman Lt. 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Matt Knight said in an email.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Navy Personnel Command officials said in a statement Thursday that upgrades in the works will turn existing legacy systems and data bases \u201cinto a high quality integrated authoritative data environment\u201d that will improve the service\u2019s reporting and analytics capability.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Knight wrote earlier this week that the Department of Defense mandates \u201ca standardized set of characterizations and reasons for separation.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe Navy does not maintain a separate list of separations for misconduct to readily identify those discharged for some specific acts of misconduct,\u201d he said, later adding in an email that \u201cthe information in the forms is not digitally searchable in our systems.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In their response to the Navy Times FOIA request, Navy Personnel Command officials denied the request, writing that they would have to crack open the personnel file of every separated sailor to see if the extremist regulation was cited as a reason for separation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Navy Times is appealing that denial.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2021\/01\/12\/qanon-shaman-charged-with-storming-the-capitol-is-a-navy-veteran\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"157\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Jacob-Anthony-Chansley.jpeg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">\u2018QAnon Shaman\u2019 charged with storming the Capitol is a Navy veteran<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">Jacob Anthony Chansley served aboard the Kitty Hawk from 2005 to 2007, according to service records.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Such gaps in records are not limited to the Navy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Pentagon has separation codes it applies to any service member leaving the military, but declined this week to share the current code list, despite the fact that they were once public information.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt is Departmental policy that Separation Program Designator codes lists are \u2018For Official Use Only\u2019 and will not be furnished to any agency or individual outside the Department of Defense,\u201d Pentagon spokesman Army Maj. C\u00e9sar Santiago said in an email.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Getting a tally of how many sailors have been separated under MILPERSMAN 1910-160 would provide at least a base point for beginning to understand the issue of extremism in the ranks, a knowledge gap the Navy shares with the rest of the U.S. military.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Assessing just how many service members have ties to white supremacist or extremist movements has taken on added urgency following the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, one that involved veterans and active-duty troops at several prominent points in the day\u2019s chaos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the Navy side, the so-called \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.navytimes.com\/news\/your-navy\/2021\/01\/12\/qanon-shaman-charged-with-storming-the-capitol-is-a-navy-veteran\/\" target=_blank>QAnon Shaman\u201d<\/a> was once an enlisted sailor himself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Navy not tracking such data reflects a broader shortcoming across the military, according to Eugene Fidell, a civilian attorney who specializes in military law.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/news\/your-military\/2021\/01\/14\/army-guardsman-first-known-service-member-arrested-after-capitol-riot\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"237\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Capture.JPG_f0b905.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Army Guardsman, first known service member, arrested after Capitol riot<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">\u201cLol to anyone who\u2019s possibly concerned about the picture of me going around &#8230; Not like I did anything illegal,\u201d the Guardsman said in a social media post.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe military\u2019s failure to maintain data, and data that are comparable from service to service, is a continuing problem,\u201d Fidell told Navy Times.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">News of the Navy not tracking such a metric comes as Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin directed commanding officers and supervisors at all levels this week to hold a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/your-military\/2021\/02\/09\/secdef-stand-down-on-extremism-not-meant-to-be-panacea-says-pentagon-spokesman\/\" target=_blank>one-day stand down<\/a> to address extremism in the ranks over the next two months.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pentagon spokesman John Kirby noted Monday that the stand down isn\u2019t designed to be a panacea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThis is an opportunity for leadership to listen to the men and women they lead,\u201d Kirby told reports. \u201cThis is just a step in what the secretary believes will be a very deliberate process to tray and tackle this problem. He understands a one-day stand down does not solve anything. It might bring to light concerns and experience that he might not be aware of.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2021\/02\/10\/navy-leaders-address-2-racist-incidents-on-west-coast\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/AP21040859494909.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Navy officials address 2 racist incidents on West Coast<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">The meetings 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