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Deciding he needed a new cell phone, he powered it on. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">to make sure it worked<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It was the <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">seemingly inconsequential <\/span>beginning of an unlikely series of events that led to the Justice Department filing charges that could put Machinist Mate 1st<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">First<\/span> Class Kristian Saucier behind bars for 20 years. Prosecutors say the 10-year Navy vet used his cell phone to snap\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">phone to take\u00a0career submariner\u00a0for taking unauthorized <\/span>pictures of the classified engineering spaces on\u00a0the attack submarine Alexandria, <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">and <\/span>raising questions about his intentions to share them.\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">and raised questions about the 10-year sailor&#8217;s intentions in regards to the photographs.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"rte rte-comment\">And <\/span>It&#8217;s the latest case where sailors are accused of violating\u00a0the submarine force&#8217;s ban on personal electronic devices; the ban was adopted to prevent sailors from photographing sensitive spaces. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">As many as 12 sailors have been implicated for having recora\u00a0of submariners violating the Navy&#8217;s restrictions of the use of personal electronic devices on submarines. <\/span>Late last year, 12 sailors were implicated in a ring that allegedly recorded female shipmates undressing with cellphones aboard the sub<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">\u00a0scandal where sailors were videotaping female officers in the shower and distributing the videos online<\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Saucier, a 28-year-old native of Arlington, Vermont, had been remodeling his home and making regular trips to the dump. When the supervisor opened the pictures <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">app <\/span>on the phone, he discovered photos of Saucier, who he recognized, along with several detailed pictures of what looked like <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">he was pretty sure was <\/span>a Navy ship.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The supervisor showed the photos to his buddy, a retired Navy chief, who took them to the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, who then looped in the FBI, and it was off to the races.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The photos that raised red flags at NCIS and the FBI included images of various control panels, a panoramic view of the reactor compartment and\u00a0a panel that showed the condition and exact location of the submarine at the time the photo was taken.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The FBI alleged that &#8220;an engineer could determine significant design characteristics of a U.S. nuclear submarine&#8221; from the images on Saucier&#8217;s phone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Saucier pleaded &#8220;not guilty&#8221; to charges he took and retained pictures of classified spaces and knowingly destroyed evidence to disrupt an ongoing investigation.<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">When reached for comment,<\/span> Saucier&#8217;s attorney said his client <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">categorically <\/span>denies any wrongdoing and is &#8220;vehemently denying the charge of espionage.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s my position that the government is distorting the facts to make it sound as if that is what he was doing,&#8221; said Derrick Hogan, an attorney with Tully Rinckey<span class=\"rte rte-comment\"> who represents Saucier<\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Saucier is assigned to <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">currently serving <\/span>Naval Support Activity Base, Saratoga Springs, New York. Hogan said he is reporting daily to the command. He was arrested May 28 and released on $100,000 bond.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Saucier told the FBI in an interview that the phone was his but that he didn&#8217;t take the pictures, according to the criminal complaint. The FBI alleges that after<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">immediately following<\/span> the interview, Saucier went <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">back to his <\/span>home and smashed <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">up <\/span>his <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">personal <\/span>laptop, a <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">personal <\/span>camera and an SD card.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pieces of the laptop were found in the woods behind Saucier&#8217;s grandfather&#8217;s house in another part of the state, according to the criminal complaint filed by the FBI.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So far, prosecutors have not presented any evidence that suggests Saucier tried or intended to share the photos to foreign agents.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>&#8216;Now I&#8217;m in trouble&#8217;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The U.S. Attorney&#8217;s\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">FBI&#8217;s <\/span>case against Saucier is serious<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">damning<\/span>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Three witnesses, including a shipmate <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">of his <\/span>on the Alexandria, claim Saucier showed them the photographs and admitted taking them, according to the complaint.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After doing forensics<span class=\"rte rte-comment\"> on the photos<\/span>, the FBI claims the photos were taken at odd hours. A photograph of the reactor compartment through a yellow-tinted observation port was taken in January 2009 at 4 a.m.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Photographs of a panel in the maneuvering compartment that included the exact location of the Alexandria were taken that March at 1:30 a.m. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">in the morning.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And still more pictures, including <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">this time <\/span>a panoramic view of the reactor compartment, were taken in March in the early afternoon of July 15.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Navy records show Saucier was on the ship and on duty at the time all the pictures were taken, according to the FBI.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One of the witnesses <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">cited by the FBI <\/span>claims that when word got out he was being investigated by the FBI, <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">he was approached by <\/span>a shipmate <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">who <\/span>asked him if there were pictures of the reactor on his phone. (The rumor on the ship was that Saucier&#8217;s ex-wife had turned in the phone.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Yeah it did,&#8221; Saucier told the witness, according to the complaint, &#8220;and now I&#8217;m in trouble. It was for myself, it&#8217;s not like I texted them to somebody.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another witness <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">cited by the FBI <\/span>claimed to be\u00a0at Saucier&#8217;s home when he returned <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">got back<\/span> from the interview, and that Saucier told the witness that the FBI had &#8220;my old cell phone with the pictures I took on it,&#8221; and that he was &#8220;screwed.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During the interview<span class=\"rte rte-comment\"> with Saucier<\/span>, the FBI <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">had <\/span>asked him about his personal computer and other electronic devices he took with him on deployment, according to the complaint.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Immediately following that interview, he returned to his home and, according to the witness at his home that day, he <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">then <\/span>grabbed his camera and the laptop the FBI had asked about, took them to the basement and smashed them to bits inside a plastic bag.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Saucier then told the witness not to talk because the witness would be in trouble too for seeing the images. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">because of having seen the photos as well.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>On the hook<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span class=\"rte rte-comment\">While <\/span>Saucier denies any intention to distribute the photos and his reasons for <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">intentions in <\/span>keeping the photos are unclear. However, the photos,\u00a0if exposed, could have been damaging, experts\u00a0said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The pictures as described in the complaint could reveal to a trained eye some of the state-of-the-art technology used to silence the hull&#8217;s noises and <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">to ilencing technology and reveal <\/span>the capabilities and configuration of\u00a0the plant inside the Los Angeles-class attack boat, according to a former sub skipper who asked for anonymity to discuss sensitive areas on the boat.\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">one former sub skipper who spoke to Navy Times on background to discuss sensitive areas of the boat.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If espionage was his intent, however, it&#8217;s unclear how much information on a\u00a0retiring\u00a0Cold War-era boat would be valuable to foreign adversaries now. <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">to any of the usual suspects such as Russia or China.<\/span><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What&#8217;s more likely is that\u00a0<span class=\"rte rte-comment\">would be more likely would be <\/span>a potential adversary could use <span class=\"rte rte-comment\">using <\/span>an initial and largely worthless transaction with a potential spy as a way of getting the person &#8220;on the hook,&#8221; 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