{"id":37727,"date":"2019-02-14T00:29:22","date_gmt":"2019-02-14T00:29:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/uncategorized\/2019\/02\/14\/as-navy-pledges-surface-reforms-some-ask-for-proof-of-improvement\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T19:37:03","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T19:37:03","slug":"as-navy-pledges-surface-reforms-some-ask-for-proof-of-improvement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2019\/02\/14\/as-navy-pledges-surface-reforms-some-ask-for-proof-of-improvement\/","title":{"rendered":"As Navy pledges surface reforms, some ask for proof of improvement"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">SAN DIEGO \u2014 Navy leaders again pledged Wednesday that reforms in the surface fleet are taking hold, but that data proving this improvement will take years to play out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The remarks by senior officials here at the U.S. Naval Institute\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.westconference.org\/West19\/Public\/sessions.aspx?View=Sessions&#038;ID=76033&#038;sortMenu=102001\" target=_blank>West 2019<\/a> conference follow a testy Senate hearing this week in which Maine Sen. 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