{"id":44872,"date":"2019-04-29T22:42:48","date_gmt":"2019-04-29T22:42:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/uncategorized\/2019\/04\/29\/what-happens-to-seals-who-testify-about-war-crimes\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T19:53:34","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T19:53:34","slug":"what-happens-to-seals-who-testify-about-war-crimes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2019\/04\/29\/what-happens-to-seals-who-testify-about-war-crimes\/","title":{"rendered":"What happens to SEALs who testify about war crimes?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At least seven SEALs are slated to testify in the May 28 war crimes trial against Chief Special Warfare Operator<a href=\"https:\/\/na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com\/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.navytimes.com%2Fnews%2Fyour-navy%2F2018%2F11%2F15%2Fa-jekyll-and-hyde-portrait-emerges-of-the-seal-accused-of-murdering-an-islamic-state-prisoner%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Catilghman%40militarytimes.com%7Ccab1413486fe4e45cca708d68921731b%7C1d5c96e57ee2446dbed8d0f8c50edea5%7C1%7C0%7C636847174121108824&amp;sdata=DQheV96RN5%2BF%2BA0ErHhR4XMoPAQf0fyUpvKxcdVznZQ%3D&amp;reserved=0\"> Edward \u201cEddie\u201d Gallagher<\/a>, but attorneys continue to question what will happen to their careers once in the public spotlight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s one of the issues expected to be raised during a Tuesday hearing in a Naval Base San Diego courtroom, according to documents provided to Navy Times.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI\u2019m going to give a speech about this,\u201d said Timothy Parlatore, Gallagher\u2019s civilian defense attorney. \u201cThe issues go beyond this trial, and they\u2019re important.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It all stems from a larger debate over <a href=\"https:\/\/www.navytimes.com\/news\/your-navy\/2019\/04\/16\/flag-no-special-immunity-for-seal-witnesses-in-war-crimes-case\/\" target=_blank>the immunity deals offered to past and present members of SEAL Team 7<\/a> in exchange for their testimony against Gallagher, 39, who\u2019s accused of stabbing to death a wounded Islamic State prisoner of war, shooting two Iraqi civilians and then attempting to cover up the alleged 2017 incidents.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"638\" height=\"829\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Gallagher-Iraq-1.jpeg.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-32463\" srcset=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Gallagher-Iraq-1.jpeg.jpg 638w, https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Gallagher-Iraq-1.jpeg.jpg?resize=231,300 231w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 638px) 100vw, 638px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Special Warfare Operator Chief Edward \u201cEddie\u201d Gallagher in Iraq in 2017. (courtesy photo)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Brian Ferguson, a Texas attorney who represents at least a dozen SEALs and other military members attached to Alpha Platoon, SEAL Team 7 in Iraq in 2017, has three clients particularly tantalizing to either prosecutors or defense attorneys.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But the SEALs have threatened to assert their <a href=\"https:\/\/www.law.cornell.edu\/constitution\/fifth_amendment\" target=_blank>Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination<\/a> if forced to take the stand against either Gallagher or his commanding officer, Lt. Jacob X. \u201cJake\u201d Portier, who\u2019s accused of helping his chief cover up the alleged war crimes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">One of them, a first class petty officer, is prized by prosecutors because he was helping Gallagher treat the wounded ISIS fighter before he died, and, in an initial interview taped by Naval Criminal Investigative Service, indicated that the platoon chief knifed the detainee in the neck.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But another Ferguson client indicated that he saw Gallagher hack into the boy\u2019s torso and later insisted that the prisoner had died before the cut, which means the chief knifed a corpse.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A third client was a sniper who disputes how one of the alleged eyewitnesses to the shooting of a young girl came to believe Gallagher was the sharpshooter who gunned her down. He\u2019s cast doubt on how others recalled the death of an Iraqi man on Father\u2019s Day in 2017, according to internal NCIS files provided to Navy Times.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2019\/04\/16\/flag-no-special-immunity-for-seal-witnesses-in-war-crimes-case\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"164\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/Gallagher-Iraq-3.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">Flag: No special immunity for SEAL witnesses in war crimes case<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">Special Warfare Operator Chief Edward \u201cEddie\u201d Gallagher believes their testimony might help him in court.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To garner their testimony, the Navy and the U.S. Department of Justice extended to the trio testimonial immunity, which protects them from self-incrimination if they tell the truth on the stand.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But Ferguson held out for better deals: transactional immunity, which would cover all other evidence churned up in the probe and any past misdeeds; shielding their coveted SEAL tridents from a special board convened to remove them; protection from extradition to Iraq to stand trial there; and safeguarding their future careers from harm, especially if they want to try out for the elite Naval Special Warfare Development Group \u2014 also known as DEVGRU or SEAL Team 6.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The attorney also sought to protect future employment inside the military, federal civilian agencies or contractors tied to what are called \u201cSpecial Access Programs\u201d and \u201cUnacknowledged Special Access Programs.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Special Access Programs rely on highly classified information and those who use the data often undergo what the Pentagon calls Special Access Required vetting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Unacknowledged SAPs are so sensitive to national security <a href=\"https:\/\/fas.org\/blogs\/secrecy\/2013\/02\/dod_saps\/\" target=_blank>that their very existence is classified<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Navy Cmdr. Christopher Czaplak, the lead prosecutor in both the Portier and Gallagher cases, assured Ferguson in an April 10 email that his \u201cclients should not have any concerns about participating in a public trial and then trying out for that unit,\u201d SEAL Team 6.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But Ferguson didn\u2019t seem satisfied that an attorney in a regional legal services office could speak for either the SEALs or agencies such as the CIA, so he reached out to Naval Special Warfare, the parent command of the commandos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In an April 17 email to Capt. Susan M. McGarvey, Ferguson expressed concerns that the \u201cword on the street\u201d indicated \u201cthat if you get involved in this case, your chances of going to (SEAL Team 6) are toast.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cFrom a policy perspective, I can\u2019t imagine that would be the case; the secondary and tertiary implications are troubling. However, from a pragmatic national security perspective, I fear participation might, indeed, be disqualifying for some or all billets,\u201d he continued. \u201cWhether the response is \u2018we\u2019ve got your back\u2019 or \u2018sorry, pal, life\u2019s not fair,\u2019 it\u2019d be nice to have a definitive answer for the folks involved and the broader community.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ferguson seemed to be suggesting that SEALs worried about their careers might forgo reporting war crimes in the future if it meant appearing in a public courtroom and being identified in the press as witnesses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He attached a draft letter for McGarvey\u2019s boss, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.navy.mil\/navydata\/bios\/navybio.asp?bioID=812\" target=_blank>Rear Adm. Collin P. Green, <\/a>the commander of Naval Special Warfare, that voiced concerns about Czaplak\u2019s \u201cnebulous reassurances&#8221; and urged the SEAL to \u201cprovide a more definitive response \u2014 whether good or bad.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In a terse reply, Capt. McGarvey said that service members \u201cwith career questions should raise them with their chain of command.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Instead, they turned to Navy Times, which asked Naval Special Warfare spokeswoman Cmdr. Tamara Lawrence for her command\u2019s final answer on the controversy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In a prepared statement emailed to Navy Times on Friday, she said that every sailor has the duty to report a suspected violation of the Law of Armed Conflict, per a standing order by the secretary of the Navy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThere is no policy prohibiting individuals from progression along their career milestones or from successfully screening for special programs simply because they cooperated with a federal investigation or participated in a court-martial proceeding as a witness,\u201d she wrote.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/your-navy\/2019\/03\/27\/war-crimes-case-expands-to-seal-team-6\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"197\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/GALLAGHER3.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">War crimes case expands to SEAL Team 6<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">Leaked records show investigators going after the &quot;mean girls&quot; in SEAL Team 6.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Reached in San Diego, Ferguson declined comment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But Parlatore said Naval Special Warfare really didn\u2019t answer Ferguson\u2019s questions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cBrian Ferguson, he\u2019s focusing on the fact that they\u2019re just public figures, that they\u2019re going to have their names associated with this trial. But I\u2019m going a step farther and I\u2019m asking, \u2018What if they\u2019re not accurate,\u2019 &#8221; said Parlatore.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Parlatore suspects that brief statements by Ferguson\u2019s clients initially given to NCIS in mid-2018 were insufficiently vague, twisted by law enforcement or perhaps lies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If their allegedly inaccurate statements are aired in an open courtroom, it could ruin their careers, Parlatore said, but the way around that is to give them every chance to tell the truth without repercussions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s why Parlatore has championed total immunity from future prosecution for all of Ferguson\u2019s clients.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To Parlatore, the prosecution and NCIS are forcing Ferguson\u2019s clients to potentially perjure themselves on the stand, according to his legal filings and letters and messages he\u2019s sent to prosecutors that were provided to Navy Times.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The most prized witness for the prosecution \u2014 the petty officer who aided Gallagher with the detainee before he died \u2014 stands to lose the most without full immunity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He was convicted at a Sept. 20 non-judicial punishment proceeding for allegedly lying to investigators to cover up his own misconduct in a separate case, according to legal filings obtained by Navy Times.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Prosecutors could bring back the NJP case with court-martial charges if he doesn\u2019t testify the way NCIS expects him to, Parlatore argues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But that\u2019s just one of multiple issues military judge <a href=\"https:\/\/www.stripes.com\/news\/navy-clears-appellate-judge-accused-of-lying-while-prosecutor-1.448384\">Capt. 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