{"id":52922,"date":"2021-09-28T09:00:00","date_gmt":"2021-09-28T09:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/uncategorized\/2021\/09\/28\/afghanistan-probably-never-stood-a-chance-reports-show\/"},"modified":"2026-08-08T08:53:59","modified_gmt":"2026-08-08T08:53:59","slug":"afghanistan-probably-never-stood-a-chance-reports-show","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/navytimes\/news\/pentagon-congress\/2021\/09\/28\/afghanistan-probably-never-stood-a-chance-reports-show\/","title":{"rendered":"Afghanistan probably never stood a chance, reports show"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On July 29, the Pentagon\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/your-military\/2021\/07\/29\/we-will-do-this-again-afghanistan-ig-warns-of-future-drawn-out-wars\/\" target=\"_blank\">independent inspector general for Afghanistan<\/a> told a group of reporters that with 20 years in and trillions dollars spent, Afghan security forces were not confident enough to do basic route clearance or checkpoint management.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Two weeks later, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/pentagon-congress\/2021\/09\/24\/us-wont-be-asking-taliban-permission-to-strike-terror-groups-in-afghanistan\/\" target=\"_blank\">the Taliban had taken nearly all of Afghanistan<\/a> and was preparing to launch its campaign into Kabul, the capital. Video would show Afghan forces laying down their weapons as the insurgents rolled into city after city, shocking many, but certainly not everyone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cYou know, you really shouldn\u2019t be surprised if you\u2019ve been reading our reports for at least the nine years &#8230; that I\u2019ve been there,\u201d John Sopko, the special inspector general for Afghanistan reconstruction, said in late July. \u201cWe\u2019ve been highlighting problems with our train, advise and assist mission with the Afghan military.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">After the Taliban took Kabul on Aug. 15, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/flashpoints\/afghanistan\/2021\/08\/18\/no-time-for-coulda-woulda-shoulda-on-afghanistan-top-military-officials-say\/\" target=\"_blank\">stood in the Pentagon briefing room<\/a> and said that no one saw the country unraveling in that way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c&#8230; the timeframe of a rapid collapse, that was widely estimated and ranged from weeks to months and even years following our departure,\u201d Army Gen. Mark Milley said. \u201cThere was nothing that I or anyone else saw that indicated a collapse of this army and this government in 11 days.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Milley, along with Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, will be forced to revisit that assessment this week, as the two take questions from both the House and Senate Armed Services Committees.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While they may not have seen it taking a week and a half, there is a long trail of public reporting that Afghanistan was making little, if any, progress as a self-sustaining, democratic nation, despite public assurances that the U.S. was winning the War on Terror and that Afghanistan was a key front.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe administration firmly believes that we\u2019re about to turn the corner, and that we just need to give our policy a chance to work,\u201d now-President Joe Biden, then a senator not yet selected as a running mate from Barack Obama, said during a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/books\/edition\/Afghanistan\/3TSKmBDyklcC?hl=en&#038;gbpv=1&#038;dq=turn+the+corner+joseph+biden&#038;pg=PA1&#038;printsec=frontcover\" target=\"_blank\">Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing<\/a> in January 2008. \u201cI am curious as to what that policy is, because, quite frankly, I tell you, I\u2019m somewhat \u2015 I\u2019m \u2015 it\u2019s not clear to me.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the Navy, they call it gundecking \u2015 when your people or equipment aren\u2019t up to snuff but you have to keep things moving, so you write up reports as if everything is going swimmingly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The strategy was on the verge of success again several years later, then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told the National Press Club in 2012.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThat has been, in my book, the significant turning point,\u201d Panetta said. \u201cFor the first time, we saw the transition working, the Afghan army able to do its job, and violence going down.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But dozens of SIGAR reports detail the underwhelming prowess of the Afghan National Army and National Police, despite the growing competence of its pilots and special operations forces. The most recent came out July 30, the first to be released after President Joe Biden\u2019s April announcement of a full withdrawal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">With that in mind, the SIGAR focused on how the Afghan forces would handle their own logistics, especially fuel. It didn\u2019t look great.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cFuel remains a major area for theft and corruption in Afghanistan,\u201d according to the report.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rank-and-file troops weren\u2019t properly trained on fuel handling and quality testing, the report continued, and there was no oversight in place to require the defense or interior ministries to accurately report how much fuel they used \u2015 necessary to make sure security forces received the fuel that they needed, rather than getting extra that could be stolen or sold.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The corruption of Afghan government and military officials was well-documented by the SIGAR, as was the slow progress in building and maintaining a force that could fight off the Taliban, though the Pentagon did not adopt any of the reports\u2019 findings into its own messaging.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt really depends on the kind of political and military leadership that the Afghans can muster, to turn this around,\u201d Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters Aug. 11. \u201cThey have the capability, have the capacity, and now it\u2019s really time to use those things.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To that end, the U.S. was prepared to continue helping the Afghan National Security Forces from afar, both by<a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/pentagon-congress\/2021\/07\/27\/explainer-us-pays-4b-to-afghan-forces-who-is-watching\/\" target=\"_blank\"> footing their payroll and procurement bills<\/a>, but also through logistics and maintenance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>What went wrong<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Backlash throughout the drawdown pointed to the chasm between years of rosy public assessments and the situation that played out in mid-August, but to call the whole thing a charade doesn\u2019t quite describe the situation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You might think \u201cone of two things is true. They\u2019re either stupid, or they\u2019re dishonest. They\u2019re either too stupid to understand what\u2019s happening, or they\u2019re dishonest in their reporting,\u201d retired Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal, who commanded the NATO mission in Afghanistan from between 2009 and 2010, told Military Times in a Sept. 7 interview. \u201cI didn\u2019t see either of those. What I saw was people given tasks. They are trying to get those tasks done.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/news\/your-military\/2021\/09\/22\/us-botched-the-response-to-covid-19-mcchrystal-says\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/GettyImages-91549841.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">US botched the response to COVID-19, McChrystal says<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">Retired Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal&#039;s latest book is out Oct. 5.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The nature of military action is to break down a mission into pieces and work through them one by one, with oversight to ensure that each objective feeds into the larger mission. That\u2019s tough when the mission changes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cI think that the goalpost shifting is typical in any war, any conflict,\u201d he said. \u201cThe reality is, nations enter a war with certain goals in mind. And often, very quickly into the war, their goals shift, because those original goals may not be achievable.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And, often, in the course of executing a military mission, non-military issues come up, but commanders don\u2019t always have the knowledge or wherewithal to follow up with them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe reality is, you\u2019ve got somebody focused on a narrow task,\u201d he said. \u201cAnd the bigger reality are the weaknesses, that either aren\u2019t in their lane, or they don\u2019t feel like they are the right person to report that.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So military leaders give the civilians above them the best advice they have, McChrystal said. But the chain of command being what it is, they have no choice but to carry out what the administration prescribes. And then, they have to consider the messaging, and that showing any dissent in public could not only jeopardize their jobs, but could inform how much faith their troops have in the mission.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIf you go to that leader and say, \u2018Can you take that hill?\u2019 and the leader goes, \u2018You know, 50\/50, I don\u2019t know,\u2019 the troops behind that leader are going, \u2018Hey, what\u2019s going on here? You\u2019re asking me to assault the hill, and you\u2019re saying you don\u2019t think we can do it,\u2019 &#8221; he said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lying doesn\u2019t really describe it, he said, though that\u2019s the conclusion many people draw.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThe leader who is going to succeed at something hard, has to believe, has to lean forward, has to enthusiastically bring his people along,\u201d he said. \u201cSo the idea that that that is dishonesty is not what I saw. I didn\u2019t see everything, but but in my sense, there were people trying to get it done, who believed that it was possible. And whether they were right or wrong &#8230; you\u2019re going to have to judge it over time.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><b>The fall<\/b><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The final days of the Afghan government might have been foreshadowed by the release of the so-called \u201cAfghanistan Papers,\u201d a Washington Post expos\u00e9, based on previously unreleased \u201cLessons Learned\u201d interviews conducted by the SIGAR, that dropped Dec. 9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Documents obtained after a lengthy lawsuit showed that despite cheery assessments in briefings and congressional hearings, the generals leading the effort there had a grim impression of their progress.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe were devoid of a fundamental understanding of Afghanistan \u2014 we didn\u2019t know what we were doing,\u201d Douglas Lute, a former \u201cAfghan war czar\u201d told interviewers in 2015, according to the Post. \u201cWhat are we trying to do here? We didn\u2019t have the foggiest notion of what we were undertaking.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">McChrystal echoed that sentiment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWell, I think that we learned it as we went along,\u201d he said. \u201cBut the reality was, al-Qaida and other threats were significant. But they weren\u2019t huge. And they were pretty limited in size and their ability to hurt us. And yet, our weakness came from being disconnected.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Pentagon regularly touted the ANSF\u2019s 300,000-plus troops, though multiple reports over the years explained that much of that was attributed to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/2016\/02\/16\/pentagon-scrambles-to-account-for-afghan-ghost-troops\/\" target=\"_blank\">\u201cghost soldiers.\u201d<\/a> Essentially, they completed training and were possibly assigned to a unit before taking off, though their names were still on the rolls.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The U.S. was, of course, still footing the bill to pay and equip them, money that has not been accounted for.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cAnd it really is going to come down to their leadership, they have, as you rightly said, they have the advantage in numbers, in operational structure, in air forces, and in modern weaponry, and it\u2019s really about having the will and the leadership to use those advantages to their own benefit,\u201d Kirby said in August.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But leadership had long been the Afghans\u2019 biggest issue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cPoor leadership at the civil level, from the top of the government down, that began almost immediately after the new Afghan government took over from the Taliban, did as much to weaken the efforts to create effective Afghan National Defense and Security Forces as any military mistakes,\u201d Anthony Cordesman, strategy chair at the Center for Strategic and International studies, wrote in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.csis.org\/analysis\/reasons-collapse-afghan-forces\" target=\"_blank\">report published Aug. 17<\/a>, two days after the Taliban took Kabul.<\/p>\n\n\n\t<aside class=\"smg-interstitial-link wp-block-smg-interstitial-link\">\n\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/militarytimes\/news\/your-military\/2021\/09\/17\/pentagon-reverses-itself-calls-deadly-kabul-strike-an-error\/\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__media\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/one.sightlinemg.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/08\/AP21245757666095.jpg.jpg?w=300\" class=\"smg-interstitial-link__image wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"smg-interstitial-link__content\">\n\t\t\t\t<span class=\"smg-interstitial-link__kicker\">Related<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"smg-interstitial-link__title\">\u2018It was a mistake.\u2019 CENTCOM admits Aug. 29 drone strike killed civilians, not ISIS<\/h3>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"smg-interstitial-link__excerpt\">\u201cThe strike was a tragic mistake,\u201d Marine Gen. Frank McKenzie, head of U.S. Central Command, told a Pentagon news conference.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/a>\n\t<\/aside>\n\t\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIn many ways, the politics, corruption, and incompetence of both the civil and military side of the Afghan government was at least as serious of an enemy to that government as the Taliban,\u201d he wrote.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The report reflects much of what the SIGAR found throughout its tenure: that Afghanistan was still effectively run by warlords, and government officials would prioritize efforts based on their economic interests.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Though the Biden administration, at the end, declared victory in Afghanistan because al-Qaida had been and remained degraded, that messaging did not account for the the years in between when a democratically-elected government, advances in women\u2019s right and subduing the Taliban all took their turns as the \u201cgoal\u201d in Afghanistan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c&#8230;the goals did migrate over time,\u201d Kirby said.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In 2010, the goal was to building an Afghan National Army and National Police that could maintain security in the country.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cEarlier this year, SIGAR issued an audit that analyzed the Capabilities Milestone system, which had been used since 2005 to measure the capabilities\u2014the outcome objectives\u2014of the ANSF,\u201d according to the quarterly report published Oct. 30 that year. \u201cSIGAR found that the system could not provide a reliable or consistent assessment of the capabilities of the ANSF and made 13 recommendations to improve it.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s likely because when one set of metrics didn\u2019t find success, the metrics changed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cEvery data point was altered to present the best picture possible,\u201d Bob Crowley, a former military counterinsurgency adviser said in a 2016 interview, the Post reported. \u201cSurveys, for instance, were totally unreliable but reinforced that everything we were doing was right and we became a self-licking ice cream cone.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.sigar.mil\/pdf\/quarterlyreports\/2015-10-30qr.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">Five years later<\/a>, after a Taliban offensive captured the city of Kunduz, the SIGAR was no more confident that Afghanistan\u2019s security forces could handle security on their own.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201c&#8230; much of what SIGAR tracks is quantitative and does not address intangible factors such as leadership and the will to fight,\u201d according to the Oct. 30, 2015 report. \u201cThe [Afghan National Defense and Security Forces] has more tools at their disposal than their enemies, but that fact by itself does not guarantee success.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That update included a list of concerns, including:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>In 2012, the success metric changed from \u201cindependent,\u201d to \u201cindependent with advisors,\u201d thus making more units \u201csuccessful,\u201d but with a lower bar.<\/li><li>Two audits in 2015 that found there was no way to confirm that security forces personnel and payroll counts were accurate<\/li><li>And that military leaders told SIGAR that their success metrics were not meant to be applied to every unit in the security forces, raising \u201cquestions about the U.S. ability to determine ANDSF effectiveness at an operational level.\u201d<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In that July 2021 interview with reporters, Sopko warned that the U.S. \u201cwill do this again,\u201d having not learned enough from its missteps in Vietnam and unlikely to learn much from Afghanistan either.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cDon\u2019t believe what you\u2019re told by the generals or the ambassadors or people in the administration saying we\u2019re never going to do this again,\u201d he said. \u201cThat\u2019s exactly what we said after Vietnam: we\u2019re never going to do this again. Lo and behold, we did Iraq. And we did Afghanistan. We will do this again.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Asked the same question, McChrystal didn\u2019t rule it out, though current Pentagon leadership has pledged a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.militarytimes.com\/news\/pentagon-congress\/2021\/09\/01\/as-veterans-process-end-of-afghanistan-war-pentagon-to-sort-through-lessons-learned\/\" target=\"_blank\">lengthy project<\/a> to explore what went wrong and how to prevent it happening again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cIt\u2019s up to us. I\u2019m quite sure we won\u2019t do anything like this in the very near term,\u201d he said, as the U.S. managed to take a break after Vietnam.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But it\u2019s going to require leaders to throw out the old playbook.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cWe certainly haven\u2019t fixed it yet,\u201d McChrystal said. \u201cAnd so the answer is, well, to just look in the mirror and decide whether we want to do that.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The unraveling of Afghanistan, according to reports, was always just a breath 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